Defend the Indefensible: Mississippi

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I'm sure they had quite the run.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

If it wasn't for Mississippi, then Arkansas would have to be last in everything.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Stoplight Cameras are banned in Mississippi for ticketing purposes.

man idg the logic behind a law like this, beyond "we want people to be able to break the law"

iatee, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.kohnmusicstore.com/peavey.jpg

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

x-post
Keeps police employed to give out tickets

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

you can have both!

iatee, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

there's the usual suspects - music and folk art traditions, some pretty decent writers, unhealthy but awesome food. low cost of living and some good folks here and there, but on balance i still say fuck it. these dicks have been tea-partying for 30 years and look where it gets them. idiots.

je suis marxiste - tendence Groucho (will), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I've been to Clarksdale (before Morgan Freeman opened his place there,) visited the Delta Blues Museum, spent the night camping at the state park in Rosedale, and drove from there down to Vicksburg. I've also been to Tupelo. Good eats, friendly people and lots of photo ops along the way.

Being from the north, the southern way of letting things sit and slowly decay is interesting to me. (I guess the New Roxy theater in Clarksdale is undergoing some sort of renovation, but when I was there the ceilings and walls were open to the elements and vegetation.) And some of the most immaculate (and faux-colonial) roadside rests are in MS.

http://www.jimgroutphotography.com/Photography/Around-the-country/Roxy-Theatre/1059104120_26YwV-L-1.jpg
http://www.bfasblondeau.com/assets2/11_bitner/2011-03-17/works/disp/NewRoxy600.jpg

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.vikingmixer.net/Vike.jpg

the presidential candidate inside me (WmC), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

these dicks have been tea-partying for 30 years

that's low balling it

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah but, except for Haley Barbour and one other, Mississippi has had Democratic governors for about a hundred years.

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

The Mississippi Legislature did finally vote to ratify the 13th Amendment of the Constitution.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

In 1995.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

FAT POSSUM

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

that's low balling it

true. i'm more or less talking about the modern era of modern era of conservative taking hold and choking the ever-living shit out of everything around it in such a despicable, all-encompassing fashion. people are still jacking it to Reagan kicking off his '80 campaign at the Neshoba County Fair.

http://www.presidentsrus.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/reagan-neshoba-wide.jpg

je suis marxiste - tendence Groucho (will), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah but, except for Haley Barbour and one other, Mississippi has had Democratic governors for about a hundred years.

Solid South Democrats is kind of a different animal though. Not exactly progressive.

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, true.

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyzAAwJnIw

rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

I am confident that somewhere in Mississippi I could get some damned good fried chicken. I'm not sure what else there is to recommend the place.

Aimless, Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

I was born in Columbus, MS, guys!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

Columbus Air Force Base, to be exact.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

wait is that for the pro or con column?

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred is a Southerner. I have to sit down for a spell on this one.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

I too was born at Columbus AFB. Have lived in Columbus, Starkville, Noxapater, Jackson

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

well, my Cuban-American dad was stationed at that air force base for three years at the tail end of Vietnam.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

same here, minus the Cuban-American part

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

Dad loves to joke that I cost $4

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

I already knew andrew m was a Southerner. He's got a reserved table at Rendezvous.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Replace Rendezvous with Neely's Interstate and you're right on. Charlie Virgo's been hit-or-miss for last coupla years and we grew apart.

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

any name can be better with Mississippi in front of it
ie.
"Mississippi Walter Mondale"

i cant spell missisipi without spell check and I dont give a shit

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Like most Mississippians with some sense and moxie, alfred no longer lives there.

Aimless, Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm6M7pj2tT4

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

I was born in heidelberg, germany on an army base. i cost something like a buck to be born. plus the doctor told my mother to drink two pints of beer a day while pregnant with me

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

multiple xposts

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

Hero.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

No it wasnt that tough, all i had to do was kind of come out of her.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

But thanks.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1NdsBpK0rE&feature=related

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

"and he gave me a 12-side die that he begged me to roll seven times...but nevermind that"

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

There are a lot of place-names in Mississippi that I love to just roll around in my mouth -- Noxapater...Splunge...Tombigbee...Itta Bena...

I guess I have no sense or moxie. ;_;

the presidential candidate inside me (WmC), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

I said "most", not "all". ;-)

Aimless, Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I was born in Bratwursterstizen, germany on an army base. i cost something like a dead seahorse in a jar to be born. plus the doctor told my mother to drink two pints of Octopus blood a day while pregnant with me

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

xp Itta Bena came up just the other day. Can't remember the context.

Re place names, also like Nanih Waiya. Noxapater's cross-county rival. Cool native American mound there too.

andrew m., Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Itta Bena came up for me too. UAPB's traveling there to play against MVS this year.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Last time I attended the King Biscuit Festival in Helena AR, sometime in the 90s, my buddy got to chatting up Junior Kimbrough pretty well. He invited us to see him play at his juke joint in Chulahoma, but that would have been a far drive for two drunk northerners. Still wish we could have pulled it off.

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 June 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

I was born in Bratwursterstizen, germany on an army base. i cost something like a dead seahorse in a jar to be born. plus the doctor told my mother to drink two pints of Octopus blood a day while pregnant with me

― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:38 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I enjoyed nailing your mother. I didnt realize anything came from it, however. Nice to meet you.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

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death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, what the rest of the state calls Monday is even worse though.

pplains, Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:37 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/country/news/charlie-worsham-blasts-mississippi-legislators-on-arts-defunding-w463900

Charlie Worsham expressed his opposition to Mississippi's HB-1325, a proposed bill that would, in part, abolish the Mississippi Arts Commission.

http://mississippitoday.org/2017/01/30/bryant-cites-lack-of-input-on-governors-arts-awards/

Gov. Phil Bryant on Monday spoke about his lack of input over distributing the Mississippi Arts Commission’s annual “Governor’s Arts Awards.”

The comments on The Gallo Radio Show provided context to the push by some lawmakers friendly to Bryant to fold the Mississippi Arts Commission into the state’s economic development office.

Each year, the Mississippi Arts Commission selects an independent panel of judges to award Governor’s Arts Awards to excelling Mississippi artists with close ties to the state.

The governor traditionally attends the awards ceremony each February, giving a short speech to the crowd, handing awards to recipients on stage and inviting honorees to the Governor’s Mansion for a reception afterward.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link

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two weeks pass...

Sen. Willie Simmons, D-Cleveland, warned his colleagues Friday that they might get some calls over the weekend about the closures.

Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves responded: “Thank you, Sen. Simmons. Random timing, I’m sure.”

Pretty wild that the speaker figured out that the Democrat from Cleveland was in cahoots with the Trump administration, huh?

pplains, Saturday, 4 March 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-cruel-new-bill-is-about-to-become-law-in-mississippi/

"You people just aren't groveling enough for your scraps. Let's fix that."

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Saturday, 1 April 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://mississippitoday.org/2017/05/21/rep-karl-oliver-those-removing-confederate-monuments-should-be-lynched/

“The destruction of these monuments, erected in the loving memory of our family and fellow Southern Americans, is both heinous and horrific. If the, and I use this term extremely loosely, “leadership” of Louisiana wishes to, in a Nazi-ish fashion, burn books or destroy historical monuments of OUR HISTORY, they should be LYNCHED! Let it be known, I will do all in my power to prevent this from happening in our State.”

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I was just in Mississippi for the first time. Went to Clarksdale (after having been in Muscle Shoals, Al and Nashville, TN) for a day and a half. Enjoyed going to club Red's and the Blues museum and elsewhere. Sad to see the abandoned buildings on many streets, and the lack of opportunities job-wise. In addition, quickly saw Friar's Point, MS. Also went one night from Memphis down to the Otha Turner memorial Barbequed Goat Fest in Senatobia, MS. Small crowd-- but I love how the late Otha's granddaughter Sharde is keeping the blues fife and drum tradition alive.

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

Did not stay in those sharecropper Shack Up Inn "authentic" shacks, although I later noticed they were renting for $10 less than where we stayed! Blues tourism is not bringing in bucks the way country music does in Nashville.

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 August 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

"Dirt and Deeds in Mississippi"

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/a-new-documentary-about-mississippi-in-the-60s-seems-frighteningly-relevant-today/

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

http://highway61music.blogspot.com/

very nice concert calendar of Miss. & Memphis area music gigs by Scott Barretta

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/us/south-magazines-bitter-southerner-charlottesvile-garden-and-gun.html?mcubz=0

Scalawag looks more interesting than Bitter Southerner, of the websites/magazines discussed in this article. Both could use Barretta's help

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Alabama has Roy Moore, but are y'all sure it's the worst state? HB 1523 is now in effect.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/02/opponents-house-bill-1523-appealing-u-s-supreme-court/722725001/

WilliamC, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

The people of Mississippi have the right to ensure that all of our citizens are free to peacefully live and work without fear of being punished for their sincerely held religious beliefs teh gays.

two weeks pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/blues-brothers-don-jr-and-eric-trump-gamble-on-mississippi-tourism/2017/10/22/e906c8f0-aacc-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.faa5ea3a54df

“Have you all been out west of Cleveland?” he queried his audience. “To those that don’t know, get ready. Get ready, ’cause the blues is on the way.”

President Trump’s hotel company, the New York-based managers of luxury properties and golf courses around the globe, seems an unlikely presence in this struggling stretch of the Delta, where new businesses are hard to recruit and black residents are eight times more likely than whites to face unemployment.

But in June, the Trump Organization, now run by the president’s sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, bestowed a singular distinction upon Cleveland, population 12,000, and two nearby towns. It announced it would debut two new hotel brands here, beginning with a four-star, 100-room Scion hotel originally designed to replicate an antebellum plantation.
...Two are Comfort Inns, in Cleveland and Clarksdale, on the side of the highway and surrounded by strip malls and gas stations. The third is a Rodeway Inn in Greenville, across the street from the Trop Casino and separated by a levee where local residents take power walks. The area nearby is pockmarked with empty and boarded-up buildings.

“I don’t support [Trump]. I wouldn’t go to his hotel unless I had to. But I don’t blame other people if they do,” said Shanna Ray, 31, a medical lab technician on a stop during her walk.

Prospects for success

Skepticism remains that the hotels will succeed financially, particularly if blacks avoid them. Bolivar County is 64 percent black, and the railroad tracks that cut through the center of Cleveland, despite being out of use and mostly buried, still separate the more prosperous white areas from black neighborhoods.

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

one year passes...
five months pass...

Hosemann, Gunn: ‘Racial animus’ of Jim Crow no reason to change law designed to thwart African Americans being elected statewide

https://mississippitoday.org/2019/07/18/hosemann-gunn-say-racial-hostility-in-jim-crow-era-not-reason-to-throw-out-election-provision-today/

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

The response said, “neither the speaker nor the secretary wish to defend the motivations behind a law allegedly enacted with racial animus” But in reality, the Hosemann/Gunn response, said the lawsuit “is not about race…It’s about partisan politics.”

Get ready to hear similar arguments over and over again as the Supreme Court said it’s cool.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

mississippi the state may be terrible but mississippi avenue in portland is quite nice

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

Obviously we all know this, but Mississippi is home to an enormous black population that doesn't want or care to leave, despite the racist bullshit of a majority of the white folks in the state. Dismissing the whole state is dismissing them, too, unless one provides caveats, so it's best to tread lightly imho

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

any statements i might make about the terribleness of the south are applicable only to the white people who run things unless i specifically state otherwise

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

Coincidentally, I woke up with “Living for the City” stuck in my head this morning.

El Tomboto, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

Who was the person the other day who naively aske on the politics thread "why do young people like Tr*mp?"

I hate people.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

U.S. immigration officials raided numerous Mississippi food processing plants Wednesday, arresting 680 mostly Latino workers in what marked the largest workplace sting in at least a decade.

The raids, planned months ago, happened just hours before President Donald Trump was scheduled to visit El Paso, Texas, the majority-Latino city where a man linked to an online screed about a "Hispanic invasion" was charged in a shooting that left 22 people dead in the border city.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2019/08/07/immigration-ice-raids-hit-mississippi-food-processing-plants/1945057001/

Scott County Superintendent Tony McGee said on Wednesday he knew of at least six families within the district that had a parent caught up in the raids. The students range from kindergarten to high school. Bus drivers were asked to return the children to the school if there was no one at their home. He said the school district created a plan to care for students and all were released from school by 7 p.m.

On Thursday he said more than 150 students in his district remained absent from school Thursday, many kept at home out of fear after the immigration raids.

McGee told the Associated Press that some longtime teachers told him Wednesday was "by far the worst day they ever spent as an educator."
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2019/08/07/ice-immigration-raids-mississippi-what-we-know-peco-koch-foods-poultry-plants-jackson-sanctuary-city/1949156001/

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 August 2019 03:57 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The next governor.

https://i.imgur.com/o6WjeXD.jpg

WmC, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

five months pass...
two months pass...

the great thing about all this is how like 70% of white ppl in Mississippi will fully grasp that this is unmistakably embezzlement, but still maintain that it was actually a better use for that money


https://news.yahoo.com/94-million-mississippis-poor-spent-160358379.html

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

New state flag is kinda erotic.

peace, man, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

I was partial to the Stennis flag but hey I’ll take it

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

Stennis flag was available as a custom license plate this year and we got that, but yeah, anything but the battle flag.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

corruption corruption
https://mississippitoday.org/2021/10/04/new-audit-mississippi-welfare-misspending/
New audit shows ‘a tragic amount’ misspent, but can’t find what happened to $40 million in welfare funds

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

corruption corruption continued: in case you were wondering what Brett Favre's been up to lately -- he's been grifting with the ex-guv

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/04/04/phil-bryant-brett-favre-welfare-scandal-payout/
https://mississippitoday.org/2022/04/06/brett-favre-used-fame-favors-welfare-dollars/

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

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