T/S: Aging Mod Dudes vs Aging Punk Dudes

http://www.paul-weller.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Weller-Imposter.jpg

Still marking down emo kids trying to pass their BTec Music. ugggh.

http://api.ning.com/files/geZ5vj*ehKwoMZ7TZijo5BHsGZEj3bx6a9hRGhe6U5j1Eko9f80X1zFKiNWmM04C/Weller.jpg?width=620&height=465

Double standard these look great obv

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JHr8RFbKOOU/SxT8u2lfWeI/AAAAAAAADKQ/dx0qdYPCM6k/s1600/pres3.jpg

Mary-Lou Who barber malfunction

is there a technical word for this fucking haircut, i am v. ignorant of style jargon?

http://www.phillipsartexpert.com/cms-media/2008-08-19/273_003.jpg

Oh jesus i have just become aware of Josh Weller. Take back everything I've said about the Mods.

Saw a couple of skinhead girls yesterday, always loved that look

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IeVEawIpC_k/TUJhEjn9aYI/AAAAAAAALVM/7a7H4qtLQ8U/s1600/miles_kane.jpg

I think it was (What's the Story) Morning Glory? I know it sounds obvious but I'm sure I got it from Woolworths. I was always a big Oasis fan. Noel sings harmony on a track on my record. It was only a little thing but he came to the studio for an afternoon and hung out. It was lovely. I love Beady Eye too, especially Four Letter Word. We're supporting them in March which I can't wait for. They're both lovely lads. It's great to see them back. Hopefully they'll bring a bit of rock and roll to the charts. There's not one guitar band in the top forty. I'd love to get in the charts and have it. The radio is awful at the minute - just so boring. It needs to change. My record's rock and roll but there's a pop element there too. I want my records in the charts and on the radio. I want to get it out there and break that barrier. It's influenced by John Lennon and T-Rex. It's got that groove feel. You can have a good dance to it, I love it.

No hype I hope yr vocal cords get run over by a bus.

sort of impressive how much cant can be fitted into a few lines

Saw a couple of skinhead girls yesterday, always loved that look

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:34 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^this guy knows what's poppin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tdG0Ivz5uI

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisbevan/

Bevan dances perilously close to Faulknerian Idiot Manchild territory

think I'm right in saying noted ILX poster 'the lex' will remember Bevan from student journalism

doubt he'll look at a thread called "T/S: Aging Mod Dudes vs Aging Punk Dudes" tho :(

that 'do is the platonic ideal of "crap middle-aged mod hair"

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^ this fucking guy

Ah, come on. We all looked like that once.

Is that photo from just up the street from where the cover of What's the Story Morning Glory was shot?

The thing about ageing punk dudes is that they know they look ridiculous whereas ageing mod dudes actually think they dress well.

My take on it is:

Mods look great in the clothes and styles, etc. When they're 17.

After that, it's like girls dressing in "young C&A" fashions because they fit.

(girls, I meant "over 20" obv)

"first of my kind" particularly hilarious text to overlay on that photo

... this morning

Weller is looking like a cross between Rick Parfitt and Francis Rossi these days. NAGL.

the mentality that goes with a title like "First of My Kind" is the teeth-grinder.

was gonna launch another rant. don't have words. that haircut sums up such a nexus of raaaaaaarrrrgh in me that i can't articulate. always the fucking northwest, too.

REPRESENTING FOR 1972

London isn't British anymore. Truly English music now comes from the North, i.e. Manchester, Liverpool etc. Look up the word "Britpop" for a further explaination.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:47 PM (8 years ago)

He's right though, it's been like that since 1066 or so

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/27/ofsted-council-rape-toddler-nursery

http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article143060.ece/BINARY/paul-wilson-623235793.jpg

not sure, maybe more emo-allied

the cropping in that guardian photo is mendacious editing of a high order

anyway by the time he gets released he will be AMD, assuming he doesn't get shivved to death

probably more of a fan of these guys

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mZ4mWlp5p2o/TxiaSkI0pcI/AAAAAAAAFMA/ykDWCHz4Chg/s320/the-wiggles.1.jpg

Good thread. Wish I'd noticed this when poll still open.

The issue with both options is the tightening up of a scene? - styles that used to be productive and capable of new things now reduced to a series of tick boxes.

Except it was probably exactly like that already when these guys were young, anyway.

And this sterility would also be a problem with young 'mods' and 'punks' too.

it started out really as a gripe about particular niche groups in the UK - middle-aged dudes with that horrible Liam Gallagher hair and usually the accompanying reactionary old fart attitudes to (especially musical) culture. i see punks of that age and lineage much less often, and when i do they tend to be a little further down the socioeconomic food chain, clinging tenaciously to some kind of crust realism. they're probably far less annoying as a group.

obviously the requisite fashion signifiers have quite different implications outside of the UK tho.

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Old Punks really usually means old 80s punks, though, right? So that's a mark against them, in that they're trying to keep alive a subculture which had already reached a calcified form.

I find it difficult to trust someone who decided to listen to the UK Subs and Crass at a time when there was Throbbing Gristle and other weird post-punk directions branching off.

80s punks are the safe version of 'punk' that you'd see on Blue Peter or in cartoons about 'people who you might see in the jobcentre', or as villains in beat-em-up arcade games. Part of the reduction of punk, from a radical break, to just another 'generation' in a comfortable 'history of British popular culture' where culture morphs gently, organically, from teds to mods to hippies to punks to new romantics.

Also, re: that anarchy symbol on the back of the jacket, and that ACAB tattoo: it's a stupid performance of 'the political', which signs off the death of The Political proper.

But then Old Mods really means old 90s mods, too. Boooooooring.

I.E. I'm placing a lot (probably too much) on the idea that 77-80 era punk, in its moment, is actually the punk that's still fucked up and weird, whereas 80s punk, which in many ways is more actually radically left wing, at least on paper, is actually the commodified form

Not an old 90s mod

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You might've picked a better example than Throbbing Gristle to make your point with since they were only active from 76-81, you might as well say I don't trust someone who decided to listen to any punk music at all when there was Throbbing Gristle to listen to. Or in fact why listen to any other music ever if there's Throbbing Gristle to listen to.

If the kids bought United...

A+

vg+

He's a gag machine, somebody should be paying him for this material

Steve Ignorant, lifeboat man:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23851982

Crass were themselves one of the weird postpunk directions branching off, fwiw & imo

yeah fair enough, this thread just seemed a felcitious place to put that link

Steve Ignorant was at the forefront of the anarchist movement, taking part in direct action...

But now his life has taken a rather different turn...

As he takes part in voluntary action within the community he lives in.

GREAT WRITING

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Which band was he in, the Hammersmith Gorillas?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ef/Caughtbythefuzz.jpg/220px-Caughtbythefuzz.jpg

clicked on thread to type, essentially, this:

The thing about ageing punk dudes is that they know they look ridiculous whereas ageing mod dudes actually think they dress well.

Well that's because they often do dress well, it's their hairstyles that are real problem