"after my job failed as an economics analyst I took off my top and went crazy in N'orleans "
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
NYT's getting really good at even making people on poverty incomes sound like terrible ruling class:
Sure, her partner, Michael Fleming, is an artist and craftsman who tosses around phrases like “humble aesthetic” and speaks of the way driftwood “resonates,” but he can also toss around a hammer. He built their magnificent oak-and-maple bed, which is weathered silver and white. Of course, if he gets a buyer he will sell it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/garden/in-maine-gifts-from-the-sea-and-the-landfill.html
― I DIED, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
I hate these people.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/fashion/fertility-is-a-matter-of-age-no-matter-how-young-a-woman-looks.html?ref=fashion&pagewanted=all
so apparently some people figured out that looking young doesn't equal being young
― peter in montreal, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
Those people are just funny.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
STAB STAB STABBY
For so many reasons in that article.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
“I’ve spent hours of my life and a lot of money making sure I was healthy, and that my hair was shiny, my teeth were white and my complexion clear,” said Ms. Foss, a magazine editor in New York City.
So when it came to conceiving a child with her husband, a marketing executive, Ms. Foss wasn’t at all worried. After all, she noted, those same traits of youth and beauty “are all the hallmarks of fertility.”
I MEAN WHAT. What a horrible person she sounds like.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
I have more stuff to s
Isn't it Louis C.K. who says there's very little in the world worse than a 20- year old complaining about the kind of job 20 year olds take? --remy bean
had never read the analysis of professor of economics ck he seems v interesting, however I would say there is pretty good evidence that today's job market is a little bit different from the job market when he was 20. the large majority of ameicans have never lived in an era w/ job prospects as bad as today's. /things are different/
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
that just sounds like an immeasurably stupid thing to believe?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
that's an xp to laurel
well, if you're a dog breeder, she's not so far off.
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
"if i get my teeth whitened and my hair done i will totally have a genetically better chance of making a baby"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
seems as if she confused genetic fertility with... guys wanting to have sex w/ you bcuz you're pretty
I mean the whole "I went to a good school, I deserve a good job" is just meritocratic bullshit filtered through the lens of the academy. Correct reading of that passage above: I was sufficiently privileged as a child and thus admitted to a 'top' school that my parents paid for /was be-scholarshipped/attended on a good loan package, and now I should get a good job unlike those schmucks who didn't go to a college/went to a state school or community college/spent time in the military/took time off because I am a Hard Working Kid Who Deserves More even though I have done very little but attend a liberal arts program and maybe work summers serving ice cream on a pier. --remy bean
this is also bullshit btw
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
why
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
Ding ding ding (sorry if you hate that)
But this is just another totally gross, insidious example of pushing a very shallow kind of desirability as if it is other things that it's not. Like fertility, or character, or anything except "based on nothing but your appearance/photograph, more strangers are likely to want to fuck you". It also disinherits the UN"desirable" from the ranks of people who are "allowed" to have the traits in question -- fertility, in this case.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
And there's just so much class grossness in that package that my brain is pushing the whole article away and refusing to ponder it much more than that.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
that young lady seems typical of those who moved here to live inside Sex & The City.
I think Louis CK will be Dennis Miller in ten years or less.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
what the fuck kind of gypsy curse is that
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
why --remy bean
I have to get on a train, will respond later
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
k
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
In re Amy Andronicus, Yglesias says things.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure Rollins considered it "professional suicide" when he joined Black Flag too.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Okay this is surely related, via my friend Abby on Twitter:
Dude whining near me on the patio: "My sister already started an orphanage in Ethiopia and she's TWO YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
hey guys, shitting on academia as a source for job security should imo be a lot more controversial than you are making it soundi mean i have a friend who worked trying to get poor kids into college & i think he wd probably disagree
i tend to think that college is a bit overrated & shouldnt be treated as an 'in' to complete job happiness, but
its also a major financial investment (college loans etc) that should probably promise some kind of return!!
― D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
idk, it just seems like there is a difference between feeling frustrated and undervalued at your job, and thinking that the only jobs that you *can* get are somehow beneath you.
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:15 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
feel like in our america of today the virtue and vitality of work has been debased and its sad
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
like only good jobs are good and everything else is a shitty waste of time
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
something is "wrong" with a system where a guy can get a (or multiple!) degree(s) and not find work putting those degrees to use! and frankly it feels sorta unfair to point and laugh at the guy who bought into the system when there probably werent a lot of alternative messages out there. im all for "get over it" in certain circumstances but this dockworker MBA didnt come up with the situation were in
― max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
max & cr?m otm
― D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
Nobody's shitting on academia, as far as I can tell. But, I'm sorry, the insistance that college makes you more 'worthy' of a good/stable/high-paying job is silly, and kind of elitest – and that if you go to college you are more deserving of one than somebody who didn't/couldn't/hasn't yet.
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
Mind you, I've got 2 post-bac degrees, and I've worked minimum wage for most of my career.
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
(i fucking hate it)
yeah idk i think most bad jobs are shitty, dispiriting wastes of time and its super gross for louis c.k. are anyone to be like 'dont complain' abt them
― *clicks 'OK'* (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
remy otm
― kate78, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
like i can sort of see the argument that 'in our america of today the virtue and vitality of work has been debased' but i think that has as much to do w/ the type of 'work' ppl are being forced to do, rather than our prevalent attitudes towards 'working'
― *clicks 'OK'* (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
calling the dockworker MBA--or whoever is out there saying "i have a degree, i should be putting it to use"--elitist just occludes the fact that we have what is apparently a very broken system in place. it puts the blame on the people who were "screwed" (for lack of a better word) instead of the institutions doing the screwing
― max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
― *clicks 'OK'* (Lamp), Thursday, September 1, 2011 6:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
eh i think what he said is otm & funny but more in the "no one has dream jobs at age 20" sense
― D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
i should add that i dont really think theres anything "elitist" about wanting some kind of return for the time and money you invest in a college education!
― max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
most jobs are shitty –– if there's a truism in the universe it's that you don't have any right to be happy at work. it's nice, and lucky, if you are. but you should also feel very, very lucky to have a job at this particular juncture in history and not be a grudge-filled asshole about it.
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
― *clicks 'OK'* (Lamp), Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:55 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think its def partially to do w/that, like good blue collar jobs dont exist anymore, but its also a state of mind thing imho
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
But, I'm sorry, the insistance that college makes you more 'worthy' of a good/stable/high-paying job is silly, and kind of elitest
really? i mean maybe not automatically but shouldnt at least have some correlation to them? and if it doesnt than what should? luck? ancestry? being handsome? nothing?
― *clicks 'OK'* (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
there is something inherently elitist in thinking that your time spent talking about chaucer in small groups of like-minded people qualifies you for high-paying work more than four years as an apprentice electrician running cable in the rain at 5am for $12/hr
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that's hyperbole
if we believe that to be true why shit on the dockworker MBA?
― max, Friday, 2 September 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
but you should also feel very, very lucky to have a job at this particular juncture in history and not be a grudge-filled asshole about it.
so honduran migrants picking crops in south florida for a few dollars a day should just be happy theyre making more than they were in their villages?
i mean lol internet arguing tactics but i mean...
― *clicks 'OK'* (Lamp), Friday, 2 September 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
there's more than one conversation happening here
― horseshoe, Friday, 2 September 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
1) higher education is kind of broken, as is the economy
i do thinks its p fd up that everyone is always u need college to get a good job then these kids pay all this money to go to college then they cant get a good job and everyones like welp - but on the other hand you do have to be somewhat savvy in life to do well
― ice cr?m, Friday, 2 September 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
wtf @ driving slowly to save gas
― call all destroyer, Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:51 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
iirc the sweet spot is 50-55 mph to get the best gas mileage
― dayo, Friday, 2 September 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link