I could see a better argument made for people to stop eating meat and saving the natural world than yards being a feature in a place with 1000/sq. mile population density.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
afaict from this thread ppl move to suburbs to
― max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
One day, ppl itt will learn to understand the difference between WE SHOULDNT LIVE IN CITIES BECAUSE DOGS, BRO and IF YOU LIVE IN A SMALL CITY APARTMENT, DON'T HAVE A GREAT BIG DOG BUT IF YOU HAVE LIKE 2,000 SQ FT AND A PARK NEARBY IT'S COOL.
One day.
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― Balonious Monk (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
anyway I mostly post stuff to this thread for people like max and dayo and laurel to read not to retroll the rest of yall
and really anyone who's defending how the richest nation in human history ended up spending its resources on miles after miles of prefab suburbs and strip malls has already been trolled...by...uh...society
― iatee, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
the automobile is the highest expression of personal freedom fuiud
― unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's probably fair to say that people didn't have the first clue about the environmental impacts when this shit got started. I mean, they're there! Whatcha gonna do? Bulldoze them?
Many of the most recent developments that I've seen in my area are suburban clusters of townhomes. So that's a smaller footprint. I think things are going to start trending towards highrises soon enough.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
My understanding is that big dogs are less hyper and can make do w/fewer walks. There seems to be plenty in my hood and they seem ok.
― get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
So terrestrial! You need a hover pod/submarine/spacecraft, bro.
― get even girls blue the cows (Michael White), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
so what's the consensus on people who live in exurbs?
― the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
oh, you mean klan members?
― goole, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
klantastic
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
it's klanastrophic.
urban klanning
― dayo, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, I just looked it up and I think I was talking about exurbs this whole time.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
goddamn iPhone
― max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
urban klann- oh dammit
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
not sure which definition of exurb that is, but nice punning
― the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
<3
― the wheelie-suitcase of the sky plus WITH SPIKED BARBS (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
What about little seaside coastal villages?
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe I'll try living in a census-designated place instead.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
<3 <3
― the wheelie-suitcase of the sky plus WITH SPIKED BARBS (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
Usually populated by colorful eccentrics and/or werewolves iirc.
― BIG ROOSD aka the WTCdriver (Phil D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
there are some pretty walk/bikable ones and some haven't even been completely fucked by the typical late 20th century streetscape refurbishments. if you can live in one without having to make a trip to walmart every other day, why not?
I have a... likeminded friend who goes vacationing w/ his wife in a coastal jersey city that's very well-designed for walking, narrow streets etc. I forgot what it's called. I don't think there's anything better about living in brooklyn w/ a car than living there without one.
― iatee, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
werewolves legitimately need a big lawn and a lot of space to run imo
― the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
trying to figure out if my parents' house out in the middle of the woods is destroying the earth based on this thread
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
I think maybe yes?
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
a little bit
― iatee, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
is there a bank of america branch attached to their house?
― the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://s3.amazonaws.com/loa.images/inv/664745/664745-11032211461299-s.jpgDestroying The Earth
http://photos.travellerspoint.com/147508/IMG_3217sm.jpgNot Destroying the Earth
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
dan im guessing your parents are not off the grid and are not farming using sustainable practices
― max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
and are liberal
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
You know the fertilizer, pesticides, and any other products used on that lawn are running straight into that body of water and probably into their ground water, too.
― the wheelie-suitcase of the sky plus WITH SPIKED BARBS (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
dan, do your parents shit in the yard? impt q
― goole, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
not to mention their septic systemxp haha
― the wheelie king (wk), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
nah they shit in YOUR yard
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
DAN, ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT YOUR PARENTS SHIT
― max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
man, anything that sparse isn't going to cause anyone problems unless there's a hidden farm field right behind the treeline
― mh, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure that's not true, mh. My hometown lake has been shown to be measurably affected by lawn run-off, and there are hardly ANY yards going down to the edge because most of the shore is forest/beach/boat docks. So just a handful are poisoning the ecosystem for the whole lake.
― the wheelie-suitcase of the sky plus WITH SPIKED BARBS (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
My parents got satellite TV around 1997 so I guess they're fully on the grid now? I don't know if Dad is using sustainable practices on his vines; I assume so? I've never seen him spray anything.
They shit in the yard by septic tank proxy.
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
x-post It kind of all depends on the density of houses around a lake, how large the actually maintained yard space is, and the water table. Oh, and size of the lake and whether it's a feeder for a stream or whatever. There are a few lakes around this region that are fairly well-populated but fine, and a few that are silted-in messes.
― mh, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
I was raised near a lake that won awards as one of the cleanest in America. I'd drink out of it bare-handed before I gulped down some of that Hudson sauce.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
I have watered/fertilized my lawn exactly never
― let me save you some time - yes, you are probably anti-semantic (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
way to destroy the earth John
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
If I ever put down any more grass seed to fill in the bare spots, I will water it a little. But that might require me to mow more often, which seems really environmentally unsound, so I think I will leave it be.
― mh, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
No fertilizer or pesticides in my yard either.
Did bury my dead cat back there last week.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Live cat kept getting out, though.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
Is the cat in a box? If not, instant fertilizer
― mh, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
really.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus Christ, I spit on my monitor.
― it was as good of a time as any to show a lighter side of 9/11 research (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link