i don't know everything about this case (i read the rolling stone thing + that's about it); it is nice to think that someone went to prison in such a way and wasn't necessarily, inevitably totally destroyed by it
― mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
decision expected in a few hours i believe
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
I just saw her statement to the court - interesting
― What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
"I didn't realise how serious life is" is not the best ever explanation for cartwheels in the nick
― stet, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
"It's difficult to speak of forgiveness at this time. Four years is a very long time but on the other hand, it's not and it's still very, very raw," Lyle Kercher told a news conference on Monday afternoon.
don't think anybody's asking them to forgive anybody who committed the murder
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
wow, she lost the appeal
― honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
woah WHAT
she totally didn't but one second ago the guardian liveblog said 'know has lost her appeal'
― honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
so yeah she is, they are, free
or 'fee' as the guardian put it, which i guess is at least less embarrassing in the face of having got it way wronger a second earlier
#TeamFoxyKnoxy
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
The Mail have been saying she lost too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044583/Amanda-Knox-verdict-GUILTY-appeal-murder-conviction-rejected.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
I suspect that won't stay up long
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
For clarification, this entry said Knox had lost the appeal, not the appeal on this specific charge. Apologies for this error.
what a confusing clarification
― honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
Premature posting by the mail there.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
well, she lost the defamation appeal right?
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
there were two charges, apparently; she got the murder charge overturned but lost the defamation charge where she accused Patrick Lumumba of being the murderer
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
That Mail link reports her sobbing as it's announced and the enormity of 26 yrs sank in, etc - it's one thing getting it wrong, but blatantly making up the whole story. I'm naive to be shocked I guess.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
Best part of the pre-written Mail article: 'Media scum: Journalists, photographers and camera crews flooded the court room during the appeal sessions earlier today ahead of the verdict'
― abcfsk, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
It's like they'd been fantasising about it for ages...
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
lol mail article still up
― prego, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
hahahahahahaha they've posted the "she's free" article on the homepage but the prefab "she's GUILTY" article hasn't been deleted yet
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
Italian justice system has really failed to cover itself in glory here - not that I'm implying other countries are better, just fucked up differently.
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
I suppose the best the Italians can say is that at least they didn't execute her...
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
Nobody is covered in glory here - the prosecution, the judge, the defence, the police, Knox, the Knox family, the pro-Knox media, the anti-Knox media...
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
as i say, differently fucked up. the whole prosecution story is kinda unlikely when you think about it, and i assume it takes a certain kinda culture to swallow the "she's obv a ho so she must have done it" line
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
tbh I can see that line working in quite a few countries
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
eh newspapers hedge like this all the time, by having two stories ready. not an indictment in itself of anything other than the competency of web site staff.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
i assume the exciting public grandstanding carried out by judge, defence, prosecution, cops, etc. was what influenced the UK gov to open our courtrooms to TV cameras, give us a chance to experience it first hand
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
please be reassured that all of my lols are squarely aimed at the web site staff
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Now what? Book deal, millions of dollars for her story/reality show/porn parody until everyone's sick of her?
― StanM, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
The first flight out of Italy before the prosecution get their appeal going, surely
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, and enough common sense to tone down the victory celebrations in light of the unsolved murder of her former flatmate, please god
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
re hedging, I get that - it's more the reporting of a bunch of stuff that never happening that's the thing. If the appeal had failed and she'd shrugged, or maybe frowned a little, the story would still have been about her as a sobbing wreck.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
Well there's still a guy doing 16 years for the murder xp
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
I expect her to record a duet with DSK - that other recent innocent victim
― StanM, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Dancing With The Stars 2012, signature move involving a cartwheel across the dance floor?
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, October 3, 2011 4:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Prosecutors were delighted with the verdict and said that 'justice has been done' although they said on a 'human factor it was sad two young people would be spending years in jail'.
xp w/ IK
― max, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
oh for some reason i thought Guede had done one
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
maybe cos him and the other two all having done it makes no sense
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
wait I thought this person helped killed someone
― conrad, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
That Mail article is still live http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044583/Amanda-Knox-verdict-GUILTY-appeal-murder-conviction-rejected.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
why did the forensics not get done properly first time? talk on the BBC just now of masks not being worn and evidence not being bagged, tagged the usual way? any uh.. forensic experts on ile (wouldn't surprise me!).
― piscesx, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
I think there is a Rolling Stone article above that discusses all the issues with the crime scene.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
A reality show where she shares an apartment with Casey Anthony and they have wacky adventures together?
― DaTruf (Nicole), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha, it's like a simpsons thing though; i hereby pronounce you GUILTY!
- of slander & thereby must pay $15 in damages. of murder?, oh, sure, innocent.
― honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda doubt amanda knox wants to be famous
― max, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
well she shouldn't've not committed a crime then
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
damn dude
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
The Rolling Stone made it seem kind of ludicrous that she was tried at all, so much so that I recoiled a bit because it seemed almost like a release by the PR machine they talk about. But then you hear about the speeches comparing her to Goebbels or bloody Jessica Rabbit and it's just like nobody's trying to find an impartial truth here.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
xp
was digging at the media and its speculators, not Knox who i'd guess wants to disappear, like max said
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link