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zunguzungu is great though

max, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

i am fully down with freddie de boer but he seems like a whiny bitch tbh

ban moves like jagger (goole), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

i know it's a common occurrence for people on the left to be called that but i am sorry it's true

ban moves like jagger (goole), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he is just butthurt about stuff 24/7, like greenwald but even worse

max, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny i have been reading him for a while and thought he was an older cranky professor until he recently revealed his age.

ryan, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

i want to put naked capitalism on this list but its really smug. and also really poorly written. the stuff by guest writers is the best.

max, Friday, 21 October 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

all people who write from a finance background, no matter what the opinion, have this cold raging asshole fury thing going on. every single one.

ban moves like jagger (goole), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

today in freddie deboer: 1200 unbelievably butthurt words about some mediocre joke on tumblr

max, Friday, 28 October 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

i liked his long post on the "resentment machine"--not to say it couldn't use some qualifications, but honestly im a fan in general of jeremiads.

ryan, Friday, 28 October 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

oh my GOD would it be possible for Freddie de boer to write just one thing that isn't about himself

max, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

Revealingly,

Mordy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i like that dude's blog but he doesn't hide his self-obsession very well.

horseshoe, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i havent read the TNI piece this is referring to but i dont like TNI so good job freddie

http://lhote.blogspot.com/2012/03/oh-boy.html

max, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

this is now the thread where i document my love-hate relationship w/ freddie de boer

max, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

Whatever the case, it shouldn't surprise you to know that for most college graduates, these flirtations are temporary. The rewards that the grinding lifestyle of American "success" offers are just too tempting. I wonder again: how many of those protesting now will be paid in full members of the system they protest, in five years? In ten? Only time will tell. But the odds are high that many of them will slump into that life. It might please you to think of the hippie-to-yuppie movement as some sort of unique failing of the Boomers, but it is a recurring cycle.

there is no economic principle that ensures that well-paying white collar jobs will always come back simply because we live in a country called 'america'. there are some pretty good reasons - technological productivity gains and a global labor force - why today is different from the 70s.

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

I mean I agree w/ the general idea 'let's have some perspective w/r/t the misery of college-educated folx vs. rest of country' - but looking at the wage gap between college-educated non-college educated ignores the fact that jobs like firefighter now go to people w/ a college education. that doesn't make college a better investment for your average american, it just makes economoic opportunities w/o a degree increasingly bleak.

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

that doesn't make college a better investment for your average american, it just makes economoic opportunities w/o a degree increasingly bleak.

otm

catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

it's 'a good investment' in the same way that someone who is seriously ill and without health insurance should 'invest in going to a doctor'.

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah im not really interested in the content of any of this stuff so much as i am in the social positioning of TNI and FDB in the academic liberal blogosphere

max, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

this is one of my favorite politics blogs -- its not really "dem" though b/c the dude is british

http://potlatch.typepad.com/

max, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sympathetic w/ the 'lol tni' pov he is just approaching this from the wrong angle

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

freddie is infuriating as always but this is a fantastic list of bloggas

http://lhote.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-list.html

max, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

I'm assuming he means Daniel Larison, right?

ryan, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

greenwald is in a class of his own - he's beyond smug, every post is in some kind of righteous fury mode. i imagine him ordering a suboptimal cappucino: "That these so-called baristas can hand me this dishwater with smiles on their faces is simply astonishing. They have had every chance to make my coffee correctly, and at every turn have chosen not to. UPDATE: Several readers have pointed out that better coffee can be had two blocks away, at Venetia. These readers miss the point, which is not that good coffee may be had at some other establishment, but that this coffee, in this establishment is presented as good yet is clearly, to anyone who bothers paying even cursory attention, not."

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:33 PM (2 years ago)

i love GG but this is still one of my favorite ilx posts of all time.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 29 October 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

haha

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

My personal hero.

buzza, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

i was legit surprised at that list when i saw it.

goole, Monday, 29 October 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ "cursory"

goole, Monday, 29 October 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

David Brooks. Just kidding, fuck that dude.

j., Monday, 29 October 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

welp freddie is back to being impossible

http://lhote.blogspot.com/2012/10/critical-practice-doesnt-feel-good.html

max, Monday, 29 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

larison has his moments but he really puts me to sleep a lot of the time. how many times can he quote some other guy calling romney a moderate and then spend four long paragraphs explaining why that's wrong?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

gahhhhh

I bring this up in regards to Glenn Greenwald's thoughts on Zero Dark Thirty. Based on his Twitter feed, it seems he has caused a conflagration for daring to criticize the movie. The typical, and typically cheap, response is that he has no right to judge the movie without having seen it. Which would be true, were he commenting on its quality or its perspective. Instead Greenwald has a very basic point, one that is being roundly ignored: a film that has repeatedly and proudly been sold as "documentary" and "journalistic" contains a lie of profound importance. The movie, by all accounts, shows torture as being an indispensable part of the capture of bin Laden, an idea that has been roundly debunked and specifically denied by many people on the inside of the government. (Adam Serwer, with typical thoroughness and fairness, has the run-down.) To say that your movie is "a hybrid of the filmic and the journalistic," as the writer of the film did, when your movie depicts the use of torture as essential to captuing bin Laden is to tell a lie. And in a country of vitriolic anti-Muslim hatred, a dangerous lie. Whether you've seen the film or not.

http://lhote.blogspot.com/2012/12/bad-faith-and-zerodark-thirty.html

max, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

you disagree with that?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

block quote otm

Pat Finn, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

glenn greenwald as well

Pat Finn, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

yknow freddie de boer is kind of insufferable

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

This post seems pretty sufferable though.

Pat Finn, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

You can't say it's "true" that greenwald has no right to make aesthetic judgments about a film he hasn't seen and then turn around and say he's totally allowed to make political judgments about its content

max, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

he claims that "by all accounts" the movie shows torture as an indispensable tool and then later in the post refers to a piece -- by someone who, unlike serwer and greenwald, has seen the movie -- that argues the opposite

max, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

close reading HAS TO BE at the heart of criticizing (in a broad sense) the politics of a given text

max, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

i think that's true. i was grossed out by the trailer for this movie though, depicting as it does a targeted assassination as a "heroic" mission. greenwald should have watched the film first, but i have no problem believing that the film, like 24, glorifies torture. but he should have watched the film before condemning it for this.

sadkdsajkldaskjdsajklasdkl (Pat Finn), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:40 (eleven years ago) link

i guess. i still <3 greenwald and h8 torture. but you made a good point and i probably shouldn't have 'leapt' to his defense that quickly.

sadkdsajkldaskjdsajklasdkl (Pat Finn), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

weird stuff going on at lhote

Mordy, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

freddie kind of getting owned imo, or maybe i find him so insufferable at this point that i cant be charitable

max, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

idk what you ever saw in that dude! just writes like some undergrad w/ a blog

iatee, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

live by the smug leftism, die by the smug leftism

Mordy, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

haha i dont know either iatee

max, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like i discovered him when he was riffing on something i agreed with and i figured thats what it would be like forever now hes my #1 hateread

max, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

haha im the same as max. now when he pops up in my rss feed and i see a post that goes down past the bottom of my computer screen i just back away. can't do it.

ryan, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

You can't say it's "true" that greenwald has no right to make aesthetic judgments about a film he hasn't seen

He was making a journalistic judgment about a widely reported element of the narrative (in responswe to filmmakers' claims of "almost journalistic" intent; he's not a critic. I wish he had refrained until he'd seen the film (which he subsequently has), cuz the O-bot supermajority in film criticism has now boiled the case vs ZDT down to "GG didn't see the film."

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link


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