btw those extinct bananas scott refers to make me get all misty-eyed, I will pay top dollar for artisanal banana
xp oh lol moonshine, yes I've seen the designer moonshine and had a lol from that
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
I said this on another thread, but I get annoyed with stuff where the handcraftedness is marketed as novel when it really isn't, like "Hey, let's take something ordinary like ICE CREAM but make an HIGH QUALITY VERSION with GOOD DAIRY" um that already exists and costs like half as much as your version of it.
― pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes they make weird flavors I guess
― iatee, Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
that's true. I was pretty ecstatic from momofuku's cerealmilk ice cream tbh
― pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
The Haagen Dazs (so authentic it has a made up ethnic-looking name!) "five" series is pretty good and about as mainstream commercial as it gets
They really need to bring back their green tea one
― mh, Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
never mind, their website claims that this flavor is still made!
bbl, off to the grocer
― mh, Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
the glut of awful, pointless "white whiskies" that you can get now
whatever the fuck this is referring to it made me very glad I live far away from the Big City
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, November 4, 2011 11:15 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://deathsdoorspirits.com/pages/spirits/spirits.phphttp://www.bullyboydistillers.com/bully-boy-whiskey.htmlhttp://highwest.com/index.php/spirits/high-west-silver-whiskey-western-oat
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 November 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
It’s akin to vodka, but with bolder flavor notes.
looooooooooolllll
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 November 2011 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
Buffalo Trace has one too, iirc
It's basically whiskey before it's been put in a barrel. Some places put it in a barrel overnight so it counts as "whiskey" since there's some minimum requirement for that nomenclature.
― mh, Saturday, 5 November 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
noun, noun, noun, noun, and adjective
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 5 November 2011 09:55 (twelve years ago) link
what's really regrettable is that the notion that beef = the best of the meats is entering the mindspace of countries where culturally that was never the case (like china)
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
Another problem I have with the "local grass-fed beef" thing is just that it feeds into this notion that we can have whatever we want ethically and sustainably. Some of it is so indulgent -- borderline gluttonous -- and it's like the ethical trappings just excuse that.
― pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Not one mention of vinyl yet in this thread?
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the local grass-fed beef thing was less about ethics/sustainability and more about taste/quality. at least i think thats where it originated...
― max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, and it sets up beef as a luxury/premium good, which I think is fine in the mid term. If the only beef you eat is this premium grass fed stuff, then you're probably only having it once in a while. Eating Hamburger Helper daily as your staple is going to burn through more beef total, right?
― mh, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
(also a health thing, i.e., grass-fed beef doesnt have mad cow disease)
― max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
male model/knife-maker in today's times:
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/timely-christopher-harth/
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
CHRIS HARTH IS A NATIVE MINNESOTAN LIVING IN BROOKLYN. HE'S MAKING HAND CRAFTED KNIVES, END GRAIN CUTTING BOARDS AND HARDWOOD CHARCOAL UNDER THE NAME NY CUTLERY. ALL HIS MATERIALS ARE RECLAIMED, THE METAL COMES FROM USED SAW MILL BLADES AND THE HANDLES ARE HARDWOOD SCRAP FROM A FURNITURE MAKERS BIN. HE IS ALSO MAKING CHARCOAL THAT COMES FROM (GLUE FREE) OAK SCRAP. THIS STUFF BURNS HOT AND FAST, THE KIND YOU WANT TO COOK YOUR DRY AGED RIBEYE OVER. ALL GOOD STUFF.
http://www.thewilliambrownproject.com/2011/04/ny-cutlerybrooklyn-ny.html
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
A sharp education Everyday I spend working on knives I learn more about being a craftsman. There are tips and tricks one can learn from reading books or watching instructional videos, but there is something physical and internal that can't be put to words when it comes to an action that needs to be repeated thousands of times over to create just one knife. The profiling of a blade, the grind geometry of the cutting edge, the shaping of the handle, the polishing of the steel... it is all meditative and soothing to me on the physical level. My hands, wrists, arms, shoulders, and hips all play a part in the subtle dance that I am refining as I improve my technique at the work bench.
Yesterday I was graced with a visit from Matthew Hranek, the man behind The William Brown Project. He heard about my knives, cutting boards and hardwood charcoal from a mutual friend, Michael Rudin, who spent a lively afternoon enjoying bourbon and venison in my backyard a couple of weeks ago. Matt is one of those fellows that has seen his share of the world and has taken the time to edit his experiences into a lifestyle that is quite admirable. He procures his own wild fish and game, raises heritage breed pigs, frequents flea markets near and far in search of the curiosities that spark his interest, and makes wonderful photos to share on his blog from the experiences.
Matt arrived in the early afternoon while I was profiling a Bowie knife for Miss Amber Doyle of Doyle Mueser. Sparks were flying and I had on my leather apron and goggles. We chatted about our common interests and mutual friend, Michael. It turns out that they traveled to a little fish shack called Lou's a few miles up the shore of Lake Superior from where I grew up in Duluth, MN to photograph the operation. It's a big-small world as I often say. If you find yourself on Scenic Highway 61 make a stop at the smokehouse and get a nice fillet of smoked whitefish and you will be pleased.
The Bowie knife for Amber Doyle is now on the grind geometry phase. This is where the knife gets the angles and attributes that make it cut the way it was intended - both ways, as David Bowie would tell you himself. I am about to start my delicate dance with the knife again today. This is the most critical phase of the process which will dictate whether or not this knife is a success as a user tool. I never thought that the process would feel so rhythmic, and from the perspective of the casual observer it may seem brutal and dangerous, but through my hands, shoulders and hips I sway ever so gently as the steel grinds away revealing a tool that is functional. This is indeed a SLOW dance.
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.notquitenigella.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/jpeterman.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
He seems to like his job. That's something.
― Aimless, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
A few days after finishing a foraging knife with a short, curved blade for cutting back toward the thumb, Harth used it himself to gather chanterelles for a delicious ravioli.
looooool the nyt is so trolling us
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
...a reportedly delicious ravioli.
― Aimless, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
don't really need a knife to gather mushrooms
― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
What would you use for a weapon if they fought back?
― Aimless, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
occurs to me that audiophilia is like an advanced version of all this
― whoop, up the butt it goes (silby), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
you mean vinylphilia? there are plenty of audiophiles who swing wildly in the other direction, like a V.U. needle.
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
keep trying to resist the urge to argue about this but...between knives made by OH NO HIPSTERS!!!1!! and one made by people who aren't being paid a living wage, gimme the oh no hipster knife
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
nah I mean like Monster™ Cables audiophilia, not so much in regards the hand-made/artisanal sound, but in the pursuit of the truest/most authentic listening experience that is really just conspicuously consuming Veblen good wooden receiver knobs or whatever the balls those people spend their money on
― whoop, up the butt it goes (silby), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
xp seems fair to me aero
also would purchase a children's book entitled "Oh No! Hipsters!"
― whoop, up the butt it goes (silby), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
ok time to go to my local neighborhood artisanal butcher to buy some local free range ground beef (seriously this is what I'm doing now)
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
if you don't buy the serially oppressed knife, that person is gonna lose her job and become even more unable to live :(
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
make sure to pick up some brioche buns xp
― max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
btw this ^xp^ is why utilitarianism and consequentialism more generally are complete horseshit
― whoop, up the butt it goes (silby), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
edit his experiences into a lifestyle
this is such a disgusting phrase!
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
everyone should just buy less stuff, regardless of where it comes from
― so solaris (Lamp), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
alternative to 'below-living wage' is not necessarily 'living wage' iirc
― blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
everyone should just buy less stuff, regardless of where it comes fromyeah - it's weird to me though that in the artisanal etc mindset there isn't more of a culture of re-use; it's there (see: a trillion etsy shops making use of found/repurposed materials) but like...idk I have this idea that if there were a cultural movement to stop producing shit for a year or two, to just quit making new stuff for a while, it'd be good for everything. I guess if yr position is more extreme ("you don't need more stuff whether it's new or used") then it doesn't matter, but that horse has left the barn in this culture, ppl are gonna consume, the only q is whether it's going to use up more resources or less.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
there are things we can do to make environmentally unfriendly consumption more expensive than less-environmentally unfriendly consumption
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
if people stopped producing shit then you couldn't convert labor into value
capitalism would be ruined
the marxists would win
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
one of the thing drives me nuts is lamps -- and similarly cheap and simple electrical goods -- being apparently considered unrepairable nowadays, so that you have no choice but to chuck em out when they stop working
― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
millions of non-economists would starve
― blind pele (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
it's not that they're considered unrepairable, it's that they're cheap enough that it's not even practical to repair it unless it's a really expensive lamp
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
(sound of 100 ilxor minds churning to come up w/ a good lamp joke)
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
yes but most of them involve doing an end-run around democratic processes which puts you in a tight spot, no?
xp @ mark s not just lamps!! when I was a kid there were these big awesome electrical-age TUBE TESTERS at supermarkets, and at shoe repair shops too if I remember right. they were for checking the tubes in your television for whether they were the source of why your TV wasn't working. (presumably also for your radio or amplifier.) present philosophy of "it's cheaper to replace than repair" 1) sucks and 2) is true; I can get a new TV cheaper than I can repair my new-ish TV
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
yup, pretty hard to convince a majority of americans that they're not paying enough $ for shit. at the same time we genuinely are overpaying for other things (housing, transit, health care) so even middle class people feel poor. everything's related and fixing those issues is gonna have to happen before we can get people to feel like they should pay more for consumer goods.
― iatee, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
you can convert labour into value if decrease production, also marx was right so w/e
i guess my opinion is:
- productivity gains are generally p good for ppl at the bottom since they make goods cheaper and increase wealth- reverting to pre-industrial means of producing goods is p stupid for that reason- at the same time many industrial/postindustrial goods dont reflect their 'true' cost since producers take advantage of all sorts of externalities- if you want to own a tv you should be paying the cost of poisoning the air above shenzen &c- we need to find ways of taking advantage of productivity gains and efficiencies w/o encouraging consumption
― so solaris (Lamp), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
- if you want to own a tv you should be paying the cost of poisoning the air above shenzen &c
lol TVs weren't always made in Shenzen man!
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 November 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
- we need to find ways of taking advantage of productivity gains and efficiencies w/o encouraging consumption
ya can u get on this? we need an answer by like... 100 years ago
― max, Sunday, 6 November 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link