has your aptitude at matters of the heart (to put it queasily) improved since your teens?

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she speaks russ1an

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Am, I was having this *exact* same thought on my way home tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I take that back: it wasn't exact.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:16 (nineteen years ago) link

But I was thinking about me and relationships and various barriers to them in my life.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually think I developed an emotionally sustainable approach to love for the first time last week.

It made me feel about a million times smarter, and happier to boot.

― Laura E (laurae55), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Jessa speaks a little Russian. Enough to get around, anyway. We have these ass-old "learn Russian!" records laying around somewhere.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link

she likes arch1tecture

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

seriously, relax, dude. This is why alcohol is the great social lubricant. It turns off your brain enough that you can do what needs to be done. Be a teenager! For initiating sexy activity, this is not a bad plan.

otm

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

she doesnt seem like the drinking type, but we'll see

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i barely even know her

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess I did think, when I was dancing toward the end of the night, how I always feel so sheepish dancing around attractive women: that whole kind of flirty dancing makes me nervous -- and in that sense, I haven't "improved." I would have no idea how to "pull" women at bars/clubs. (This despite alcohol.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link

it only takes the once.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link

if it means anything coming from me, am, you seem like a pretty lovable guy. nothing like an ogre at all.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link

she is a huge nerd, i think i really ought to stick with the huge nerds as far as crushes go

thanks k3nan

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:23 (nineteen years ago) link

haha killco is kenan? i am so lost these days. he's right again!

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:24 (nineteen years ago) link

how would you know gaz?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm in constant identity flux.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link

my ears are not symmetrically aligned

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link

haha

yeah, you must be unworthy of human contact, then.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link

you seem like a pretty lovable guy ???

you do seem like a nice guy ams. am i wrong?

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i shift in my seat a lot

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

are you easily excited?

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link

he's very nice, and even pretty confident about himself. he'll be fine. i'm not at all worried about him.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i am a total shrinking violet when it comes to the opposite sex though

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link

does he look like an ogre?

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost so am I! sometimes that works. *especially* with nerdy girls.

I would post a picture of him, but I have been specifically forbodden from doing so.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i kinda find that attractive too. unless i get the idea its an act.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i am sort of chubby and nondescript

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

like me!

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

she is petite and pretty

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

does she know it?

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:39 (nineteen years ago) link

ogres are ugly and buff.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i haven't tried 'do you know you're pretty?' since the 2nd grade

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link

and that was in a snoopy card

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link

ha! you know what i mean. does she have tickets on herself?

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

even so, it's hard for a woman to misinterpret "you're pretty." It always means you think they're pretty.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

as long as you don't begin any sentence with, "Baby, that ass..."

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:42 (nineteen years ago) link

she doesn't seem like the sort of person who imagines themselves irresistable, no

she could be dating someone for all i know

there was something about the way she stuck with our conversation though that made me think otherwise

i dunno

i want to make it with her while she tells me about her dissertation idea

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:43 (nineteen years ago) link

*hic*

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i want to make it with her while she tells me about her dissertation idea

!!!!

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link

ugh.

― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link

well maybe after

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link

How do you know this gal?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link

jaymc i hope you don't mind if i don't say

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link

AND WHAT IS HER DISSERTATION ON???

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Can we rename this the Chicago 4AM Commiseration Thread (Plus Gaz for Laffs)?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

actually she is sterling clover

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

jaymc i hope you don't mind if i don't say

No, that's cool.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

her dissertation topic is very interesting

please do not prod me for details

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

if you do it'll be like the end of thief with james caan

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link

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It would work a lot better if I were goth.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

you can go goth for one album only, sort of like garth brooks

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, because that was a big success.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

you too can be in cut-out bins throughout the far northwest side!

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread has strayed far from ascots and neck-licking

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

You don't associate those with garth (I mean, Chris??)?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Garth goth.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

At risk of digging back up something which probably should stay burried, but still, I wasn't here to comment at the time.

Yeah, seriously, hstencil on the money. Two lonely people dealing with it in different ways.

I mean, what *should* I be doing? Lying around being all twee and whinging about how I'm too romantically incompetant to get a date or get over my broken heart? Does that really make me, or anyone else around me any happier? What actually gives me that kind of a serotonin kick that makes me get out of bed and take the razor from my fucking vein? Lying around living out Smiths lyrics and being neurotic, or looking at NME scenester pr0n? Guess which one works better for me.

I've wasted too much of my life being depressed and I'm sick of feeling sorry for myself. You know what? Yeah, my teens *were* a long time ago, and I don't have to be that person any more. Are you gonna wallow in your own self pity or are you going to transcend it? OK, so I have a bit of a strange way of transcending, (the path of excess leads to Willesdon) but you know, whatever works for you.

― the path of excess leads to Willesdon, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

anyway

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i've reached that stage where after devoting too much thought to the matter and having finally achieved step one (getting a "date" more or less/being somewhat confident that she likes me), i start wondering why i devoted so much thought to it when i don't really know the person all that well. it's like your eyesight clears up and you realize it wasn't your eyesight, the person actually is kind of a blur to you. i guess that's what the date is for.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

this repeats a familiar pattern for me: crushing on someone, getting them to notice you, then idly (disastrously?) wondering if their friend with whom you share a laugh more easily and spontaneously isn't the person you should be attracted to.

life is weird.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know but I don't think so.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think so either.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

i haven't had a crush in twelve years, and i'm a eunuch.

life is wonderful here.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

aim?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

When I was a teenager, girls threw themselves at me, so I learned nothing. No really. Now women barely look twice at me, except desparate ones, so I still know nothing. And it's frustrating, because there's a certain dating aptitude I suspect you're supposed to have I don't. It's either straight to bed (too infrequently unfortunately) or more typically complete ineptitude with the sophisticated women I'd like to hang around with.

― joey lawrence, Monday, 25 October 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't had a date since the year 2000.

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link

nope. i've always been completely shitful at matters of the heart. it's not something i expect to improve at to be perfectly honest.

― gem (trisk), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

:-)

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

sarah have you listened more to t hat soul cd???

now that i have a cd burner i can copy you guys some more stuff. like, lots, if you so desire. i have like 200 soul cds.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

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