― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago) link
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link
I especially recommend the Anthony Mann triple-threat of T-Men, Raw Deal, and He Walked By Night
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 9 April 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 9 April 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 9 April 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago) link
― claudja, Friday, 9 April 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link
― fcussen (Burger), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― jazz odysseus, Friday, 9 April 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago) link
French - Bob le Flambeur Band of Outsiders
― webcrack (music=crack), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― jazz odysseus, Friday, 9 April 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 9 April 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Saturday, 10 April 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link
I think the first noir was "Stranger on the Third Floor," 1940, RKO.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 10 April 2004 17:59 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 10 May 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link
― jazz odysseus (jazz odysseus), Monday, 10 May 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Amos, Monday, 10 May 2004 07:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Monday, 10 May 2004 11:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― frankiemachine, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
In any case, frankiemachine, I would have thought you would have mentioned The Man With The Golden Arm, although I guess that's not a noir per se.
― Redd Temple Player (Two Headed Dogg) (Ken L), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― dont stop go, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
common '50s noir police descrip: "white American male"
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Brick was a more accurate translation of just about every Raymond Chandler book I've read then any Film Noir I've seen, including say, The Big Sleep or Murder, My Sweet.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm such a dumbass for only now realizing it refers to the shadows in the film.
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― David Orton (scarlet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
How? Be specific. Give examples.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
(though similarly, my favorite Hammett adaptation is Miller's Crossing)
Anyone seen The Girl in Lover's Lane? I watched it as an MST3K episode, but it seemed like a really successful small town noir.
― p@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― JTS (JTS), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh yeah, I saw that on TCM last year during the Mitchum festival.-- Sons Of The Redd Desert
Actually, I haven't seen that one, but it looks pretty good. I was talking about Angel Face, which is mentioned in the very first post of this thread.
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
- House Of Bamboo (Robert Stack & Robert Ryan in post-WWII gangster Tokyo. Sam Fuller directs)- Scandal Sheet- Nightmare Alley (Tyrone Power as a carny mentalist)
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
I found the dialogue in Brick, like Millers Crossing, totally stylized in a way similar to the books, they also shared the protaganist as punching bag cliche so common in the books. There was just something about the way the lead in Brick kept being knocked out, then seeing just a hint of light, then passing out again, then waking up somewhere else, then getting beat up, that to me represented the feeling I get from the Chandler books. Murder, My Sweat is one vintage noir that does this, of course, with it's expressionistic passing out sequence. The complicated plot that really doesn't matter so much, crime lords and their henchmen, the playing of sides against each other. All classic pulp fiction/film noir things.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bluebell Madonna (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
The novel In a Lonely Place is vastly different from the film but very much worth reading, it's a little disorienting to read if you go in with any expectation that it will line up with the film, but I think both are brilliant in their own way.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:24 (yesterday) link
Interesting. Have always wondered about that one.
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:18 (yesterday) link
There is also the song by The Smithereens, which relies heavily on the film's catchphrase:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOVlqUcB8A
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:20 (yesterday) link
Dorothy B Hughes is great!
― ian, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:28 (yesterday) link
Read another Arthur Lyons novel in his Jacob Asch series, and seems to me there's been some missed opportunities to make a particularly feverish, sweaty, nightmarish 1970s set private eye film based on one of those.
Good reminder that I'm overdue to watch Ride the Pink Horse.
― omar little, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 22:12 (yesterday) link
The novel of IN A LONELY PLACE is even more bleak than the film.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 30 May 2024 00:52 (twenty-one hours ago) link
IALP is diffused a little for a having a protagonist/antagonist named Dix Steele.
"Hi! Dix Steele, meet I.Ron Johnson..."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 May 2024 01:49 (twenty hours ago) link
xo to Omar -
iirc, Lyons was involved with a major film noir festival, so I bet he would have loved to see an Asch novel on film.
― ian, Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:04 (twenty hours ago) link
I read the plot summary for the novel of In A Lonely Place & my reaction was “100% Veg-bait”i mean: a serial killer moonlighting as a crime writer? sounds like a fever dream <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:25 (nineteen hours ago) link
The novel of In a Lonely Place is SO GOOD!
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:29 (nineteen hours ago) link
:D
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:34 (nineteen hours ago) link
my local library has three of her novels on the shelf so i will def be grabbing those in the next day or two.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:37 (nineteen hours ago) link
The novel is excellent and is definitely in that 1940s/50s sub-genre of "the bad or mad guy is the protagonist", ie Jim Thompson, Patricia Highsmith etc. Another great one in that category is "Beast in View" by Margaret Millar.
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:42 (nineteen hours ago) link
ooh thx for the rec
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:54 (nineteen hours ago) link
― ian, Wednesday, May 29, 2024 7:04 PMp-
still going strong, just celebrated 25 years!
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/palm-springs-film-noir-arthur-lyons-festival-25th-anniversary-1235992647/
― omar little, Thursday, 30 May 2024 03:23 (eighteen hours ago) link
i keep my ear to the ground for these things normally, but events have had me distracted. gonna be on it for 2025, i hope. might make a desert trip.
― omar little, Thursday, 30 May 2024 03:24 (eighteen hours ago) link
After Dark, My Sweet (James Foley, 1990) is probably my favourite neo-noir and the best Jim Thompson adaptation to date, just a hair above Serie Noire (1979). It really captures the bleakness and sadness of his novel, and it has career-best performances fromJason Patric, Rachel Ward, and Bruce Dern
― beamish13, Thursday, 30 May 2024 04:29 (seventeen hours ago) link
There’s a certain famous band who would lazily look at a calendar for a local repratory folk theater when they needed to come up with song titles and this gave us classics like In a Lonely Place, Cries and Whispers, Thieves Like Us, Age of Consent etc
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 May 2024 11:32 (ten hours ago) link
I thought New Order even wrote lyrics using Scrabble tiles
― beamish13, Thursday, 30 May 2024 13:34 (eight hours ago) link
"folk" should read "film" obv.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 May 2024 14:07 (eight hours ago) link