LONG DUK DONG

thats how it was adveristed in the US, too
i'm not sure how pointing out a guy's race is "refining the racism game", bad taste for sure but kinda like a 1/10 on that scale

I think lingering on Apatow films might be dodging some of the other offenders that are worse. Did I ever mention on ilx that I was tired and just wanted to stay in my hotel room on a trip a few weeks back and "Hall Pass" seemed like an OK movie to order? I forgot to check the directors and thought it'd just be dumb, but... it was the Farrelly brothers.

Party Animals=Van Wilder

i think he's referring specifically to the translation of "Asiate"

um, pointing out a guy's race is pretty much the racism game for sure

The plot of the first Harold and Kumar movie, outside of their quest for sliders, was an examination of what it means to be Asian-American! It was all about the expectations Kumar's dad had for him to live up to as kind of a cultural signpost, Harold being the guy who gets shit on at work because he's a conscientious worker, the interaction with the Asian student club that they run into at the school...

racist, not funny, but the racism isn't why it's "not funny"

― reconstituted pork offal slurry (get bent), Monday, January 9, 2012 4:46 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ otm

They did consciously cast them as specifically Indian and Chinese, though, and their charcaters are written true to certain stereotypical notions so it may be less the distributors as the whole enterprise that has a whiff of racism about it not that Kumar's whole scene imagining living with his bag of weed and NPH didn't kind of redeem that for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ6NIikVmDQ

um, pointing out a guy's race is pretty much the racism game for sure

believe it or not there are reasons to point out a guy's race that do not revolve around "race hate"

the joke there wasn't that they were being racist, the joke was that neither of the leads had a recognizable starring role and that at the time more people would know who you were talking about if you said "The Indian guy from Van Wilder" instead of "Kal Penn"

Was looking for more overseas comedy and found this instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMghvnqDhT8&feature=related

Sajak sounds as surprised as anybody in that clip.

pretty sure that's fake

Well, yeah, because Kal Penn had played a pretty bad stereotype in that film! The premise was pretty much "here are these dudes who have either been undercast due to race (Harold) or cast as a bad stereotype (Kumar) in a film where they are, in fact, a Korean-American and Indian-American and deal with what those roles often mean."

I agree there are reasons to point out race that aren't racist, but the premise of the film pretty much made their ethnic backgrounds a real thing, not a crazy stereotype. The ad campaign is racist, but kind of ironically?

So back to my horrible Farrely brothers point: this movie I watched because I was lazy had an honest-to-god moment where Owen Wilson's character is saved from a hot tub he fell asleep in by two naked dudes who run out of a sauna, and there is a "lol black guy has a huge penis, Irish man has a tiny one" joke

lol that's ridiculous everyone knows irish guys have problematically enormous members wtf

I <3 threads were we can get frogbs' incredibly nuanced take on racism. Dude should write a newsletter. Wait.

I agree there are reasons to point out race that aren't racist, but the premise of the film pretty much made their ethnic backgrounds a real thing, not a crazy stereotype. The ad campaign is racist, but kind of ironically?

right. I do kinda feel like H+K dealt with race in a way that was a lot smarter than most similar movies (like all the ones mentioned above).

its basically an entire cast of long duk dongs but instead of being funny you're supposed to marvel at how normal they are and how they have hopes and dreams and trials and tribulations just like white ppl

― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

long duks dong imo

did I mention since it's the Farrelly brothers I assume they had comedic penis prosthetics or animation or something? And that said penises were on camera way too long?

farrelly bros seem kind of too tasteful for that. maybe it was wachowski bros?

look, criticise the present day Farrellys all you want but their initial three film run rivals any in the 90s.

farrellys definitely on the progressive axis of grossout humor (versus say weirdly conservative christian producers of american pie)

Kevin Smith having Randall's face get splattered with a gallon of diarrhea was pretty progressive too

I don't think I'd sit through any Farrelly film from the 90s as an adult! Maybe Kingpin, but they only directed and did not write that one.

Kingpin is amazing

yeah <3 kingpin. i was unaware they had not written it. i guess that makes sense

Bill Murray's character in that movie was so incredible. Only Nic Cage himself could have done it better

no he couldn't

they didn't write it? kingpin seems sentimental enough to be them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-Z5L-cJhA&feature=related

Anyone who hates Kingpin hates life.

have to rep for dumb and dumber tho

i've noticed people kind of repping for Kingpin as the "underrated" one in the early Farrelly's canon but Dumb and Dumber is a modern classic

yeah but everyone thinks that, while Kingpin still feels kinda underground

kingpin snuck under the radar a little and is more adult in humour, maybe, but agree

ilx y'all on a serious racism binge at the moment

?
kingpin's way less racist than some other bill murray movies about sad, broken people.

*barfs up racism*

racist, not funny, but the racism isn't why it's "not funny"

― reconstituted pork offal slurry (get bent), Monday, January 9, 2012 9:46 PM (2 days ago)

^^ this

also "the party" is such worthless druggy slogging crap that the racism is just one of its many awful parts

<3 kingpin <3

lemme save potential the party viewers some time - peter sellers in bad makeup, someone sings a song, flower children and hanger ons fall in a pool while a painted elephant runs around FOREVER

sounds fucking rad

Hall Pass was so boring. Their new movies are all so fucking boring.

The Dumb and Dumber sequel is gonna be so terrible :(

never forgave kingpin the hoars feet

The Dumb and Dumber sequel is gonna be so terrible :(

Another one? The prequel was so awful too.

yeah, the Farrelys, Daniels and Carrey are doing it though

Yeah just read up on it via wiki. Not too promising to see the scriptwriters are also churning out latter day Adam Sandler scripts.

Scratch that. Directing latter day Sandler films.

Like many itt, I'm shamefully weirded by my blithe, teenage enjoyment of the Donger and his devotion to his new-style American girlfriend. I remember being called on the glaring racism a few years later when professing my Hughes-love to a more politically astute college acquaintance and struggling to justify it as "ironic" or some such bullshit. For an era so devoted to subversive faux-naiveté, the 80s were awful goddam naive.