LONG DUK DONG

I don't know people's names, send a message! xp

Also, that hulking out frog is both adorable and disgusting. I am so conflicted!

― ENBB, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:18 (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

enbb, frogbs apologist

My whole thought was a solid paragraph long, but the gist was "okay, he's an ass, but I honestly think he's trying to engage in discourse with us."

I appreciate that but I think only a select few were actually trying to engage on a level that wasn't name-calling

I guess you're really the victim here then.

tbf the response I'm seeing to a couple people name calling is typically to be cryptically sarcastic and then treat ilx like you don't care what anyone thinks for another day or so

i'm not going to pretend like i don't care, rather a little shocked at the kind of logical fallacies that normally smart posters succumb to when talking about an issue that's even a little controversial

Could you explain this fallacy?

I think what you're not getting is that we don't have to have group consensus or bully someone into being right or wrong

like, the people who find this shit funny aren't really posting to the thread, but they obviously are on ilx for some reason or another

So if you're perpetually getting said "hey, no one speaking hereis buying your arguments and we do find this offensive" then explaining to someone why it isn't offensive, when they obviously have the right to be offended, isn't going to go anywhere

to be fair, the only way I get along is by not posting on threads that are heated where I have a strong opinion, because it doesn't help me OR the discussion most of the time. and if I feel genuinely underqualified, as white midwestern dude who has asian friends but no huge personal stake, I'm going to let it go

for instance, dayo and aero are pretty cool dudes imo and they have a personal stake here, so even if I did find this shit funny, I'd be seriously asking myself why, or at least not be outright saying "HEY PEOPLE FIND THIS FUNNY" because I respect them

ok I've done my community service for the week, where's my free coffee

you're entitled to steal coffee from a 7-11 now

Well the thing I was trying to hammer home over and over is that I do believe it's offensive and in bad taste, and that's part of what makes it funny TO SOME PEOPLE. In the case of this character, I found the fact that somebody would think that he's typical of anything to be funnier than the character itself, but also, that yes, I laughed at a few of his lines (and would have even if the character was a space alien), and that yes I didn't really feel good about it, but using that to make sweeping generalizations on MY character is stupid. I have a personal stake in a lot of race issues too but IMO that only loosely applies here and I think I tend to give people a lot more credit. I get the "I have Asian kids, you shouldn't laugh at Asian stereotypes" argument, but when it turns into "you're a shitty person for laughing at this who obviously has some deep seeded racist beliefs" when I grew up with a ton of Asian people, none of whom were anything like this character, then yeah I'm going to get all uppity about it. If you asked me "could you go back in time and destroy this film", yeah, I would.

his idea that people are shitty for laughing at it is just, like, his opinion, man. don't get all butthurt for one person drawing a hard line in the sand

stop saying "deep seeded" you shitstain

That and the use of phase instead of faze are going to be the slow silent death of me.

yeah I'm going to get all uppity about it

you guys need to recognize a true master

frogbs honestly may be the best troll we've ever had

ha
xp

I just can't...

I think we may be too dumb to be properly trolled. At least I am.

comparing asians to space aliens nagl for your argument

frogbs honestly may be the best troll we've ever had

no question at all

nice to see that in 2012, 42 members of socially progressive message board ILX find a racist, flagrantly offensive and stereotypical asian character written by a white guy from a rich chicago suburb to be 'funny'

just gonna ignore the bottom half of the results, too

― dayo, Monday, January 30, 2012 6:19 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whats wrong with chicago >:(

If Ferris Bueller is supposed to represent the idealized Chicago, where the neatest thing for a kid playing hooky is to go to a snooty restaurant and then a museum, then sing in a white pride parade, then that's what's wrong with Chicago.

pretty much the white suburban chicago dream right there

I don't get it at all. My mom would kill me if I made fun of an Asian! Plus he is kind of cute. As far as Ferris Bueller I knew people like that in high school, you are supposed to listen to new wave music, get mad at your dad and then kill yourself. Feel bad about being rich!

when i played hooky in the chicago burbs i hung around belmont and clark went to 'the alley' and seedy record shops.

I never played hooky but sometimes we went downtown without telling mom and dad. Get twenty bucks from dad, drive downtown and eat at Melrose.

when i played hooky in the chicago burbs i hung around belmont and clark went to 'the alley' and seedy record shops.

― omar little, Saturday, February 4, 2012 1:56 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol you mean that dank one (that no longer exists) just east of the belmont el right? RIP

when i played hooky in the chicago burbs i hung around belmont and clark...

...at the Punkin' Donuts!

you know it! there used to be a shitty used cd store on clark just south of belmont iirc. this was in 1995 or w/e so it's been a long time. damn i miss that dirty ould town.

that shitty used CD store was there as recently as 2004 or '05 i think. i'm not sure if it's still there now

Disc-G0-R0und? I think it's gone. And it was indeed shitty.

time was when you actually enetered "the alley" through an alley.

I have a lot of sympathy for comedians like Ken Jeong who get shit for playing clowns because, wtf, it's really fun to play a clown and why should they not be allowed to just because of their race. Like only white comedians should be allowed to play lunatics? The problem is when the joke is "lol asian" rather than "lol lunatic" and while I think the line is blurred in something like the hangover, John Hughes adding gongs to every long duk dong scene makes it considerably less blurry in sixteen candles.

The cultural influence of Sixteen Candles is obviously toxic, but one wouldn't have to change much to just make the guy an eager foreign student on a drunken rampage (and as an MBA student I've witnessed some), which one can find the humor and truth in without stripping the character of dignity entirely (and tbh, few characters in sixteen candles have any dignity - surprised the word "bohunk" hasn't come up yet). There's elements of Wantanabe's performance I love that aren't that different than something like McLovin in Superbad, and it's sad that for a variety of reasons that were either out of his hands or he was naive about, they're couched in stuff that's really ugly.

TS: the racist kid in Sixteen Candles who says the mom should burn the sheets after Dong leaves vs. the racist kid in The Last Dragon who calls his older brother a "chocolate covered yellow peril."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxw4uZAezaI

worst chinese accent ever (probably because that girl is obviously a native english speaker)

can we get a gawker post on this?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/superbowl-special-my-nominee-for-most-revolting-ad/252593

what a race to the bottom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJichBWnUbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFsqkI5gg84

amodei can eat a fucking dick

what other kind of dick is there

guys if we let china invest in our economy then they're going to grind us under their bootheel, just like Japan was able to do after their large american investments of the 80s

wait, japan's economy is crap, never mind

what other kind of dick is there

long duk dong

what other kind of dick is there

a cruel slap in the face to ILX's virgins and chaste persons

holy shit

http://www.debbiespenditnow.com/

http://i.imgur.com/ztiDk.png

it is kind of cool how stuff moves around on that site as you scroll down

too bad abt the race-hate

lol the website design is pretty great

it's pretty cool that stabenow is so well-regarded in china thanks to selling out the american economy, they've actually commissioned a series of hand fans with her face emblazoned upon them.

that is an incredibly well-crafted racist website