when i played hooky in the chicago burbs i hung around belmont and clark went to 'the alley' and seedy record shops.
― omar little, Saturday, February 4, 2012 1:56 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol you mean that dank one (that no longer exists) just east of the belmont el right? RIP
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
when i played hooky in the chicago burbs i hung around belmont and clark...
...at the Punkin' Donuts!
― kate78, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
you know it! there used to be a shitty used cd store on clark just south of belmont iirc. this was in 1995 or w/e so it's been a long time. damn i miss that dirty ould town.
― omar little, Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
that shitty used CD store was there as recently as 2004 or '05 i think. i'm not sure if it's still there now
― D-40, Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
Disc-G0-R0und? I think it's gone. And it was indeed shitty.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
time was when you actually enetered "the alley" through an alley.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 5 February 2012 07:53 (twelve years ago) link
I have a lot of sympathy for comedians like Ken Jeong who get shit for playing clowns because, wtf, it's really fun to play a clown and why should they not be allowed to just because of their race. Like only white comedians should be allowed to play lunatics? The problem is when the joke is "lol asian" rather than "lol lunatic" and while I think the line is blurred in something like the hangover, John Hughes adding gongs to every long duk dong scene makes it considerably less blurry in sixteen candles.
The cultural influence of Sixteen Candles is obviously toxic, but one wouldn't have to change much to just make the guy an eager foreign student on a drunken rampage (and as an MBA student I've witnessed some), which one can find the humor and truth in without stripping the character of dignity entirely (and tbh, few characters in sixteen candles have any dignity - surprised the word "bohunk" hasn't come up yet). There's elements of Wantanabe's performance I love that aren't that different than something like McLovin in Superbad, and it's sad that for a variety of reasons that were either out of his hands or he was naive about, they're couched in stuff that's really ugly.
TS: the racist kid in Sixteen Candles who says the mom should burn the sheets after Dong leaves vs. the racist kid in The Last Dragon who calls his older brother a "chocolate covered yellow peril."
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxw4uZAezaI
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
worst chinese accent ever (probably because that girl is obviously a native english speaker)
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
can we get a gawker post on this?
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/superbowl-special-my-nominee-for-most-revolting-ad/252593
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
what a race to the bottom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJichBWnUbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFsqkI5gg84
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Sunday, 5 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
amodei can eat a fucking dick
― David Dees Weekly Top 40 (crüt), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
what other kind of dick is there
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
guys if we let china invest in our economy then they're going to grind us under their bootheel, just like Japan was able to do after their large american investments of the 80s
wait, japan's economy is crap, never mind
― mh, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
long duk dong
― David Dees Weekly Top 40 (crüt), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
a cruel slap in the face to ILX's virgins and chaste persons
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit
http://www.debbiespenditnow.com/
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ztiDk.png
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
it is kind of cool how stuff moves around on that site as you scroll down
too bad abt the race-hate
― D-40, Monday, 6 February 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
lol the website design is pretty great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
it's pretty cool that stabenow is so well-regarded in china thanks to selling out the american economy, they've actually commissioned a series of hand fans with her face emblazoned upon them.
― omar little, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
that is an incredibly well-crafted racist website
― mh, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
the little hand fan that falls down the page as you scroll is magical
thread devoted to www.debbiespenditnow.com
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vJIKo2fyUs
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
borderline
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
She walks these hills, in a long duk dong
― buzza, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
I think I remember that's how it went down. The thing that gets me is Jake basically said "Lol have fun doing whatever you want to my passed out girlfriend!" which in the movie was supposed to be okay because she was a bitch.
jake hands ted a six-pack before they drive off! he wants both of them drunk! the whole thing is a set-up so he has a reason to break up with caroline, which is exactly what happens, is how i read it.
also i am awful suspicious of jake's intentions towards sam. he frames the differences between sam and caroline in terms of caroline's insensitivity and selfishness vs. wanting a serious girlfriend who would love him and whom he could love, etc., but all he really knows about sam is from the note he read where she says she's a virgin but would do it with him. no way he's not considering that through the rest of the movie. he actually knows nothing about her from a personal point of view. plus, there are about ten or so repeated instances in the movie where sam is referred to as a child, or physically less developed than caroline, who has a woman's body (cf the nude shower scene) and is sexually active (which jake is bored with already). so it seems there's a maiden/ mother archetype subtext to the whole thing. sam's even wearing her bridesMAID's dress in the final scene where they kiss. ostensibly it's framed that while he should prefer the more womanly, sexual caroline, he cares more about matters of the heart and so chooses sam, with whom he can envision having a serious relationship. however, it's the virgin note which piques his interest and the repeated references to how sam's just on the cusp of womanhood that make me think that's what's driving him.
i dunno, there just seems like there's a duplicity at play here.
having "if you were here" playing over the closing scene ain't helping, either:
if you were herei could deceive youand if you were hereyou would believebut would you suspectmy emotion wandering, yeahdo not want a part of this anymore
― slugbuggy, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
larry clark should do a remake
― da croupier, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not trying to defend this in front of a thesis committee, btw. i just think structurally it's weird that they drop the "am virgin, want to do it with jake" thing the he KNOWS about at the start of the movie and then never address it again. it's just hanging there over everything else that happens after that.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
like, in any other teen movie, they would not shut up about it.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
I was just getting ready to revive this thread, but not to talk about the donger.
Short Round/Data (Jonathan Ke Quan) got brought up in the action movies thread. Less offensive than LDD, probably. But how much less?
Bonus thought: Big Trouble in Little China. Certainly has Chinese stereotypes/Asian exoticism in it. But also has a variety of characters. Or am I just fooling myself? Ebert says "straight out of the era of Charlie Chan and Fu Manchu, with no apologies and all of the usual stereotypes"
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
whoa i didnt know adrian tomine was asian
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 18 February 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
i think the deal with big trouble in little china is that it's trying to reflect a specifically asian approach to fantasy, so the characters are borrowed from wuxia films and literature and chinese supernatural tales, etc. but yeah, it definitely slides into charlie chan/exotica territory. difference between actually being something and copying/spoofing that thing from "outside".
i've never found it particularly offensive, despite its many obvious stereotypes, but maybe i need to rethink it a bit.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
it's not like white people come off great in Big Trouble In Little China.
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 February 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/14/interview_with_my_bully_when_i_confronted_my_bully_about_racism/singleton/
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 20 February 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
rob schneider plays a chinese man in 'i now pronounce you chuck and larry'? welp.
― sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Monday, January 9, 2012 7:12 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc3GBDJ2sK0
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/COyD1.jpg
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link
what the fucking fuck
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
this shouldn't be surprising since rob was the bobby lee of SNL.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, February 20, 2012 8:47 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 20 February 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
he also plays a grotesquely caricatured hawaiian in 50 first dates
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2004/Feb/13/tgif1ula_b.jpg
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 20 February 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
Isn't every Schneider role in a Sandler movie a racial caricature of some kind?
― Number None, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
I feel like any outrage over Rob Schneider isn't probably well-placed these days
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
that last pic doesn't do justice to the blackface aspect of the performance
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 20 February 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, maybe? i don't see many adam sandler movies.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/rob-schneider-hoping-to-tackle-racial-stereotypes-in-respectful-way-on-rob_article_58941
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRL0QXLFGV4
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
that clip was so bad that it was actually elevated by racism.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link