LONG DUK DONG

I think I remember that's how it went down. The thing that gets me is Jake basically said "Lol have fun doing whatever you want to my passed out girlfriend!" which in the movie was supposed to be okay because she was a bitch.

jake hands ted a six-pack before they drive off! he wants both of them drunk! the whole thing is a set-up so he has a reason to break up with caroline, which is exactly what happens, is how i read it.

also i am awful suspicious of jake's intentions towards sam. he frames the differences between sam and caroline in terms of caroline's insensitivity and selfishness vs. wanting a serious girlfriend who would love him and whom he could love, etc., but all he really knows about sam is from the note he read where she says she's a virgin but would do it with him. no way he's not considering that through the rest of the movie. he actually knows nothing about her from a personal point of view. plus, there are about ten or so repeated instances in the movie where sam is referred to as a child, or physically less developed than caroline, who has a woman's body (cf the nude shower scene) and is sexually active (which jake is bored with already). so it seems there's a maiden/ mother archetype subtext to the whole thing. sam's even wearing her bridesMAID's dress in the final scene where they kiss. ostensibly it's framed that while he should prefer the more womanly, sexual caroline, he cares more about matters of the heart and so chooses sam, with whom he can envision having a serious relationship. however, it's the virgin note which piques his interest and the repeated references to how sam's just on the cusp of womanhood that make me think that's what's driving him.

i dunno, there just seems like there's a duplicity at play here.

having "if you were here" playing over the closing scene ain't helping, either:

if you were here
i could deceive you
and if you were here
you would believe
but would you suspect
my emotion wandering, yeah
do not want a part of this anymore

larry clark should do a remake

i'm not trying to defend this in front of a thesis committee, btw. i just think structurally it's weird that they drop the "am virgin, want to do it with jake" thing the he KNOWS about at the start of the movie and then never address it again. it's just hanging there over everything else that happens after that.

like, in any other teen movie, they would not shut up about it.

I was just getting ready to revive this thread, but not to talk about the donger.

Short Round/Data (Jonathan Ke Quan) got brought up in the action movies thread. Less offensive than LDD, probably. But how much less?

Bonus thought: Big Trouble in Little China. Certainly has Chinese stereotypes/Asian exoticism in it. But also has a variety of characters. Or am I just fooling myself? Ebert says "straight out of the era of Charlie Chan and Fu Manchu, with no apologies and all of the usual stereotypes"

whoa i didnt know adrian tomine was asian

i think the deal with big trouble in little china is that it's trying to reflect a specifically asian approach to fantasy, so the characters are borrowed from wuxia films and literature and chinese supernatural tales, etc. but yeah, it definitely slides into charlie chan/exotica territory. difference between actually being something and copying/spoofing that thing from "outside".

i've never found it particularly offensive, despite its many obvious stereotypes, but maybe i need to rethink it a bit.

it's not like white people come off great in Big Trouble In Little China.

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/14/interview_with_my_bully_when_i_confronted_my_bully_about_racism/singleton/

rob schneider plays a chinese man in 'i now pronounce you chuck and larry'? welp.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc3GBDJ2sK0

http://i.imgur.com/COyD1.jpg

what the fucking fuck

this shouldn't be surprising since rob was the bobby lee of SNL.

what the fucking fuck

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he also plays a grotesquely caricatured hawaiian in 50 first dates

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2004/Feb/13/tgif1ula_b.jpg

Isn't every Schneider role in a Sandler movie a racial caricature of some kind?

I feel like any outrage over Rob Schneider isn't probably well-placed these days

that last pic doesn't do justice to the blackface aspect of the performance

Isn't every Schneider role in a Sandler movie a racial caricature of some kind?

i dunno, maybe? i don't see many adam sandler movies.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/rob-schneider-hoping-to-tackle-racial-stereotypes-in-respectful-way-on-rob_article_58941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRL0QXLFGV4

that clip was so bad that it was actually elevated by racism.

wow that show is really _that_ bad, isn't it?

the brunette appears to be delivering her lines through a codeine haze

that makes me think more of her, like this will be a "I was on drugs and accepted bad roles and now my career is in a happy place" will be in the future

the laugh track is

fucking hell

that is a beautiful piece of free verse. i am not kidding.

http://shanghaiist.com/2012/03/15/french_tennis_pro_michael_llodra_ap.php

rench tennis player Michaël Llodra (ranked No. 41 in the world) recently pulled off a Vincent Chin-esque double-whammy of racial insensitivity, after he reportedly screamed "Fucking Chinese!" at a Korean-American woman in attendance during his first round match against Ernests Gulbis at the BNP Paribas Open in Indian Wells, California. He has since taken to his website to apologize in a classically non-apologetic fashion, by qualifying that he is not a racist, and that he lost his temper because the Indian Wells court being uncooperative, and also because tournament organizers scheduled his matches poorly.

Vincent Chin-esque? Hmmm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Vincent_Chin

the reference is to the fact that the people who killed vincent chin thought he was japanese (the murderers were detroit auto workers)

I know the case, but it seemed strange that the writer would think screaming a racial epithet is similar to what happened to Vincent Chin.

well here the opposing tennis player was korean american

You mean the woman in the audience (Gulbis is Latvian)

haha yeah, that kind of makes it worse

random yelling at audience members is... random

insightful observation

tennis matches are kind of surreal that way; you have to be quiet, but they're all fired up and ready to yell obscenities at the line judge (or random audience members, whatever)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/tennis-busted-racquet/llodra-apology-love-chinese-totally-love-chinese-girl-194815124.html

hoo boy

The most cringeworthy thing about the Colbert Report is when he slips into his 'self-consciously' racist Chinese bit. The joke is that he's being overly racist! Isn't that funny!?

For that matter, pretty much any and all self-consiously ott racism really gets on my nerves. It's lazy, it's not funny, and it's only not-racism in a very specific context.

tbf Colbert's entire act is that he's being self-consciously conservative and his humor in-character is... oh god too much meta

Yeah but when he brings the Chinese joke guy up, it's just turning up the tasteless level to 11.

I've never witnessed this (stop watching Colbert regularly some time ago) but one thing that has always REAAAALLLY pissed me off about the Daily Show was its constant "lol furriners" schtick (eg, "here's a clip of something weird going on in another country! Listen to me make silly jokes about how strange they are in the voiceover!" Awful).

agreed on all counts

It bothered me when David Letterman used to do that (foreigners who don't speak English well and fat people = comedy gold), but he seems to have stopped quite a while ago. I wonder if it's because he got too many complaints, got mature, or realized that his life has become joke fodder too.

pretty sure it's a sign of the times more than anything

I am very relieved to find out that Michael Llodra does not have a racist penis

http://i.imgur.com/Smq59.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rCa4C.gif