reduced overall consumption could mean a lot of things... take it far enough and it *might* be something of a solution? I mean except that we've probably passed a tipping point already?
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think the organic movement had a coherent political philosophy that involved whether or not people should take planes or eat meat or w/e
― iatee, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
the thing is the majority of the worlds population is just trying to get the the level that rich people consider cutting way back or significant lifestyle changes, like people in india just want a refrigerator
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
right. That's why I'm saying that nothing is going to help, because we can't turn the train around. But in theory, yes, significantly reduced consumption would obviously help.
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
just weave your own shower curtain on a loom using the organic hemp u grow
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
reducing overall consumption could involve giving up refrigeration
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
bathe with a natural sponge and homemade lye soap, in a bog
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
I guess it's just a vague enough term that it seems like it could be a catch-all
don't shower
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
well significantly reduced consumption besides being the all time so not gonna happen maybe not even be possible because of the way the world is set up to support its 6 billion people, but its not true that nothing will help, the governments of the world just need to make people use diff fuel is all
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
stand in the rain and rub yourself with aloe and soap plant, catch the runoff in a handcrafted bucket and sell it as a protein shake
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
and that company became jamba juiceand now you know... the rest of the story
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
in the united states of new hampshire ice will be shipped down canals from the mountains, huge blocks of it, covered in saw dust, accompanied by men from the Ice Guild, who wear robes and symbolic chains around their necks and chant mournfully in a dialect of english that is only theirs
― max, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
this is the sort of out of the big box store thinking we need to avoid environmental catastrophe
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:55 (17 minutes ago) Permalink
We don't really have enough "different fuel" capacity in the world to support anywhere near current or projected consumption levels with significantly reduced environmental impact.
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
We've come too far. Let's go out in style.
― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:14 AM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure we dont right now but its not inconceivable that we could create that capacity if the will was there, like one recent study said that half of all necessary carbon emission reductions could be achieved by just eliminating all carbon subsidies world wide
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
nothing is going to help, because we can't turn the train around
won't won't won't
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
the future is yet to be written people
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
I think the more interesting question is whether economic growth even can be decoupled from resource use or if we really would just have to flatline
― iatee, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:09 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is so beautiful
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
agreed
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
so can i sign you guys up for the new hampshire plan
― max, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
gbx have you found the ice guild in skyrim yet
― goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
sign me up max, do i have to pay for the ice upfront or can i just pledge my firstborn to the ice guild
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
max should write a ben marcus novel
― ↖MODERNIST↗ hangups (thomp), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
ha did that post turn out to be a video game reference smh
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
whaaaat how dare u impugn my worldbuilding
― max, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
how can i learn 2 trust u again now that i know u play pc games abt dragons
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
what on earth are u talking about
― max, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
life, man
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
can we go back for a sec and just appreciate the rutger prof's magnum opus, a history of the American baby
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
There there, max, GoT Season II will be starting in just a second.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
dude Rutgers American Studies department is AWESOME don't knock it
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
Indeed:
Cory Finley, a recent Yale graduate, applied to work at Bridgewater Associates, a large Connecticut-based hedge fund, during his senior year of college. Mr. Finley, 23, said there was “definitely something tempting” about the structure and prestige of a high-paying finance job. But he ultimately decided to follow his dream of becoming a playwright instead.“It’s something that fulfills me in a deep way,” said Mr. Finley, who has written a play called “The Private Sector” that is set at a hedge fund corporate retreat. “I don’t judge people who do go into finance, but it’s not for me personally.”
“It’s something that fulfills me in a deep way,” said Mr. Finley, who has written a play called “The Private Sector” that is set at a hedge fund corporate retreat. “I don’t judge people who do go into finance, but it’s not for me personally.”
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
lol trolled
― goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
Talk about burying the lede:
The smaller paychecks are only making the decision easier for some students, who no longer view Wall Street as a fast-track to seven figure salaries. Last year, flagging profits at many Wall Street firms reduced some bankers’ compensation from stratospheric to merely generous. At Morgan Stanley, cash bonuses were capped at $125,000; some Goldman employees saw their annual cash payouts cut in half.
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
eh I really doubt very many potential applicants were like "oh man my bonus is only gonna be 125k and not 150k? fuck that, nonprofits 4 lyfe"
― iatee, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
candlebox in the wind for the 90s
― Euler, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
eek wrong thread
― Euler, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
Another A+ for this.
― bamcquern, Thursday, 15 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
my shower curtain gave off a chemically smell when I first unwrapped it
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 16 March 2012 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
I love that smell.
― free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Friday, 16 March 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5885705/the-top-1-must-stop-insisting-theyre-not-rich-right-this-instant
easy point but well put
And here we see the fundamental dishonest characteristic of each and every article which advances this particular enraging argument. "Sure, it's an objectively large sum of money," they say. "But it is far smaller after I spend it."
No shit.
Money pays for the costs of life. That is what money does. You can't fucking argue that, hey, your money doesn't go that far after you've already spent it. You used it! Paying taxes and paying bills and paying the mortgage and putting money in a retirement fund and going out to dinner are the things that money gets you. You asshole. Just because you didn't blow it all on jewelry, caviar, and cocaine doesn't mean you didn't get anything out of it. This argument is like a man eating a hearty meal, licking his plate clean, then turning to a starving person and saying, "Look, we're in the same boat. My plate is empty too!"
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/amelias-inter-species-art/
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/opinion/jobs-looked-to-the-future.html
Questions have been raised about the truth of a paragraph in the original version of this article that purported to talk about conditions at Apple’s factory in China
No, Mike Daisey fabricated a bunch of shit. He's not even an investigative reporter.
― dandydonweiner, Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
eh he's a theater performer. i've seen a good half dozen of his works and i think the apple one is the weakest because it was more polemic than theater. That the two are so mixed up is part of what makes it sort of work and also part of what makes it not work. here's hoping this kerfuffle doesn't obscure the more important issues he raised.
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really think this is the tbread for that issue
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
anywayhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/education/at-the-pta-clashes-over-cupcakes-and-culture.html?scp=4&sq=clinton%20hill&st=cse
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
it's hard for me to sympathize with parents when i read shit like this
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link