they're presumably setting him to be a major character the way they did peggy
Very curious to see if Stan's prediction that Michael will outshine Peggy comes true.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
No kidding, Betty's perspective way skewed. Megan's 26, and Betty is what, still early 30s? I get where she's coming from in that she feels like Megan's a know-nothing youth, especially with the marriage/kids/social society bit, but it's almost like the two of them are separated by only a handful of years and a complete social generation.
― mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think Betty also feels older because she married an older politician and has a lot of responsibilities that Megan does not have -- contrast her ancient, forbidding house with the hip apartment Don and Megan are living in.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
Kind of sad about Don's lack of reinvention. The guy can relate to all kinds of people, but he's really no good at changing himself in any major way.
― mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny how everyone in this thread keeps going on about how useless harry is when he is actually kind of the only business visionary in the show, realized the potential of and built the whole TV department and probably kept both firms afloat? but he's bumbling and fattish so you have an excuse to feel superior to him
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
if there is anyone who is in tune with the common man, it is Harry
― mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'm guessing Bobby Morse has never sung on this thing.
also, they are doing George Romney ads?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
No, Betty's politician husband fired off a one-liner about not wanting to meet with Romney in Michigan
― mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
thx, I heard there was something.
u guys shd watch the How to Succeed movie for the Morse metajoke
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg1MDY0Njg3OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzk0ODE0NA@@._V1._SX640_SY505_.jpg
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
Don's not good at changing himself?!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
It is a TCM staple, I've seen it a couple of times -- it seems like they air it once a month. xp
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
this gif has me in a trance
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1uz8hjy8A1r1bvoxo1_r1_500.gif
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
This one is my favorite because of the angry slow clapping:
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1uwcdECZv1qa2khlo1_500.gif
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
the two people that pete fucked hardest
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still thinking about Henry totally blowing off Don's call. I don't even get why he would be mad that Betty told Don about the tumor.
Ugh @ soap opera people.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
also, ginsburg's dad benching him was way bizarre and strange
full confession: Ginsburg is the first character I've felt any identification with on this show at all (well, apart from maybe Peggy's latest boyfriend) ... but yeah this was weird, was wondering if I was missing something. was he blessing him because he got the job or something? I was perplexed.
xp
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe he just brought home the right kind of cheese.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
I dug the Ginsburg character. He seems interesting.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
built the whole TV department and probably kept both firms afloat
re: the former afaict the "TV department" is just Harry and I seriously doubt the latter is true, not sure what you're basing that on
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
good movie/good metajoke imho
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
I don't even get why he would be mad that Betty told Don about the tumor.
Probably because Betty didn't tell him she had told Don? That would seem slightly shady to me.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
Betty and Don have three children together. I'm sure there are conversations they have that Henry doesn't know about and Henry should be smart enough to realize this happens.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Henry doesn't strike me as particularly smart
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
BUT I think Henry has some weird inferiority complex re: Don and has to act out in some way.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
altho he IS divorced and has told Betty to get over it in terms of dealing with Don and raising their children so yeah I dunno
I really liked the Betty/Don drama in this. 'Tell me everything will be alright' was pretty awesome. Also i loved how Harry was too high to notice he was being scammed by the non-Rolling Stones.
I really don't understand the Harry hate. He seems more like a good-natured goof than anything.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't Harry basically go to Roger "maybe we should have a TV department" and Roger went "okay, you're the head of the TV department" because he didn't really care. And yeah the TV department is one person. It's pretty difficult to work out what he actually does other than occasionally meeting with TV execs and being a hapless buffoon. He's actually a lot less fat than he used to be and has becoming increasingly buffoonish with time. I don't hate him, but he is kind of comically inept.
Speaking of hapless buffoons, they're never going to bring Kinsey back are they?
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I think the guys who are gone are now gone for good.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
we'll see - they brought back Ken and Midge
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
They brought back Ken and Midge before all that offseason contract rodeo that happened.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
I loved Harry talking about Charlton Heston. I think that he comes off as intensely over-eager and also kinda smarmy which I think is why most people are turned off by him.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
I could see them bringing anyone back for a guest spot (a la Midge). I think it's not terribly likely than any of the former regulars, come back as regulars at this point cuz really what's left to say about Sal or Kinsey at this point.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I could see them being brought back to serve a particular plot point, but not as recurring characters
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
Don bumps into Sal on Fire Island in the show finale lol
Yeah, I think if any former regulars/featured(s) come back, it might be a drop-in from Duck or Freddy Rumsen.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
best line of the show, Roger re: Ginsberg - "we share the same dream of one day throwing something through this window."
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, they're both still alive right? For some reason, I'm thinking one or both of them is/are dead. xp
Both last seem alive.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
they were both in season 4 (and mentioned already in season 5)and still alive
― mizzell, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
Ginsburg is the first character I've felt any identification with on this show at all (well, apart from maybe Peggy's latest boyfriend)
this x100 and i hope they don't blow it with a 'jews are weird' fixation. i'd think matthew weiner would know better tbh.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
roger had a p good 'always darkest before the dawn' half-drunken slur line also
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
Harry is good-natured but has a lot of weak good ol' boy-isms that he keeps trying on. It's like he is trying to look young, but already has this mentality built up so that all his jokes and references just seem dated. Kind of hilarious when he's telling a story that obviously seems pretty cool to him about Heston, and he's high and stumbling over it in a near-giddy manner, completely oblivious to the fact that he's speaking to someone who has no clue what he's talking about.
― mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
so if jane and her cousin are jewish, they just kind of overlooked the fact that they hired a jew in the past?
― mizzell, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
Never picked up on Jane and Danny being Jewish I think?
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
even roger?
― mizzell, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I didn't.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
But man Season 3 was forever ago now.
I thought it was kind of hilarious that Harry telling stories stoned is kinda the same as Harry telling stories straight: completely oblivious that the person receiving the story has no interest in whatever he's talking about <3
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
i never thought it was clear about Danny and Jane, but thought some people on here felt pretty certain.
― mizzell, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Jane is def Jewish (her maiden name is Siegel), but I think Jewish secretaries don't count in terms of the firm seeming "modern."
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link