People are dumb:http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/who-is-paul-mccartney
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the equivalent in 1966 honestly would be the girl not knowing who i dunno al jolson is.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
liked the allen klein namedrop, but was sort of hoping harry would meet up with andrew loog oldham. or was oldham out of the picture by 1966?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago) link
Oldham sold his share of the Rolling Stones' management to Allen Klein in 1966, but continued in his role as the band's de facto manager and producer until late 1967.
I doubt Klein would have allowed people to go through anyone else but him to get to the Stones while they were in the US, and particularly while on Klein's home turf of NYC.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link
no ways! jolson was long dead in '66, dead probably the year that girl was born, and he would have been 80 freaking years if he'd lived. he hadn't been a major cultural presence a quarter century. heston, otoh, was in his early 40s and had recently starred in several big, flagship productions, one of hollywood's biggest stars at the peak of his "mature" career. not the kind of guy most teens would be flocking to see, but still...
it makes sense to me that a lot of young people nowadays wouldn't know from paul mccartney. at this point, paul's glory days are some 30-60 years distant. that's comparable to kids in the mid 60s drawing a blank on jolson. to find a modern equivalent for kids back then blanking on heston, you'd have to find someone who first showed up about 25 years back and is still getting lead roles in blockbuster oscar bait. like say brad pitt, johnny depp or george clooney.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
edit: "no ways! jolson was long dead in '66, dead probably the year that girl was born, and he would have been 80 freaking years old if he'd lived. he hadn't been a major cultural presence in a quarter century."
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
the show isn't saying ALL teenagers didn't know who he was
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
I'm getting a bit tired of this show now. Also I can't stand Betty.
― We Need To Talk About Trayvon (admrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 06:35 (twelve years ago) link
Megan is really working my nerves ... soooo whiny!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I like Megan
― We Need To Talk About Trayvon (admrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
haha i like Betty.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
AA Gill in The Sunday Times wrote that Mad Men is becoming vacuous and is a victim of its own success....but never really went into reasons WHY.
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
Because editor asked him to.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
I read that Gill piece (dunno why i do it to myself) and it seemed like his usual trolling. Also, he called Christina Hendricks "the top-heavy redhead"
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link
Was Gill a good critic at one point or am I just imagining it?
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 10:42 (twelve years ago) link
not in my memory anyway
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not loving Megan. Well, I love her choppers but not much else.
I liked that weird awkwardness at the Heinz dinner. It seemed very underlined that this conversation would have gone a whole lot more smoothly with someone like Betty. Not that I am any great Betty fan but she can at least handle business small-talk. Whereas I dont' think Megan really gets the bigger picture ie dinner goes well = business goes well.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
wtf, Megan totally got to agree and play the "non-business-savvy wife" role when the Heinz dude's wife was asking her "oh, this is all so boring, right?"
― mh, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
I thought she was just super awkward through the whole thing, especially dropping the whole 'oh he's divorced' turd on the table.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I don't know if it's intentional or not but her character does kind of have a desperate undercurrent, like she constantly needs to prove herself in any situation. As a hip 60s youth, as a sexy Frenchy, as biz wife. Maybe not 'trying to hard' but somewhere around there...
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
is Megan the T-Mobile commercial spokesmodel?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
how big are the spokesmodel's teeth? that's the giveaway.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
i take her as some combo of really eager & curious, but naive -- like that moment of the wife asking how boring this convo is -- she figured out that of course, be agreeable & submissive to the menfolk talking business but shes really genuinely interested in advertising for whatever reason
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Mordy: yes
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
she seems more genuine and honest than most people on the show. she's not used to playing a role which everyone else does.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Carly Foulkes is the T-Mobile spokesgirl.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. I worry that her arc is going to be "Don and everyone destroy all her optimism".
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
!!! xpost
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
i had no idea.
Well, y'know...thin brunette Canadian women all look alike.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
not a bad thing imo
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
I thought she was played by Geddy Lee.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
No, Megan is the actress from s1ocki's short film and a number of lesser features.
Like Hot Tub Time Machine
― mh, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
i always thought conspiratorially that the t-mobile girl was debuted parasitically with megan's emergence
i had the same feeling about another spokesperson & tv it-person but i can't remember who now
― goole, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
it makes sense to me that a lot of young people nowadays wouldn't know from paul mccartney. at this point, paul's glory days are some 30-60 years distant. that's comparable to kids in the mid 60s drawing a blank on jolson
you misunderstood my post! that's exactly what i was saying!!!!!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
xp to Morbz a bunch of posts upthread: Most of this season I've spent thinking whether Pete is more of a Bud Frump or a J Pierpont Finch. I think he alternates between the two. Also, I wonder if he lives in New Rochelle.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
in re megan i don't think the various parts we've been shown of her (NO NOT IN THAT SENSE GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTER) don't really add up to a very coherent whole. the fact that we very nearly ONLY see her in don's company is probably the culprit here; we have little sense of who she was before or what she is when she's with friends and not with don. so basically her construct seems like a creaky construct right now. that doesn't reflect on the actress as much as the writers.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
which train line was pete taking?
i assume henry and betty live in greenwich or something.
s1ocki's movie vs. hot tube tim machine
― We Need To Talk About Trayvon (admrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
damn, that's a lot of exclamation points
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, she's basically set up as 1960s manic pixie dream girl - which is prob why she annoys me.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
We've seen Megan with Peggy without Don, right?
― Brando Ambassador (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
bday party planning scene
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
also working on Heinz
making extra coupons when it wasn't called for etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnXGW8QxTfkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oVdLIvcNREhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-95qfa956Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InILSU-ZV9M
― We Need To Talk About Trayvon (admrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
pls stop
― We Need To Talk About Trayvon (admrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
Dominic West!!!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
her CHARACTER seems like a creaky construct
once again, i cannot type
you misunderstood my post! that's exactly what i was saying!!!!!damn, that's a lot of exclamation points― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 12:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 12:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, it was frustrating reading a whole post ripping apart my suggestion when in fact it was making the same point i had intended to make. ;-)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
xxxx...post
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link