why is the 'brooklyn' brand really any more ridiculous than any other brand in 2012?
i lived in brooklyn. as a result, i would never buy "brooklyn industries" crap if my life depended on it. the very idea makes my skin crawl. exploiters pimping out the very fact of their exploitation. no. i will not play that game. even mcdonalds is less offensive. it at least is content to mean absolutely nothing.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
what are they exploiting, it's just a word
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
ah, come on, nothing is ever "just" anything
everything means something, really means a bunch of different things, depending on your perspective
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
there's a strange and obstinate sort of literalism to your vision. i respect its consistency but just can't embrace it.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
people buy the stupidest shit, and not just people in brooklyn, people everywhere. there are about 5 billion times as many designer t-shirts in the world as designer jars of pickles. somebody created a new market for something via branding? great, one more person with a job.
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that part i'm cool with. more power to the creatively inclined! don't mean i gotta pay $18 dollars for your jar of merely adequate pickles. or embrace your hives-inducing "made in brooklyn" branding.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
i lived in brooklyn. as a result, i would never buy "brooklyn industries" crap if my life depended on it.
lol @ u
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost as if there is something inherently, almost commodifiably authentic about the true Brooklyn spirit
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
there's a certain type of noxious boosterism that attaches to some neighborhoods/boroughs, for instance hackney in london is approaching brooklyn levels of boastful swag, you see shirts that say things like "proper east" on them, but you don't see the same things in quite the same quantity or force in places like brixton or queens
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
and i'm not sure why, like what determines these almost hysterical levels of neighborhood "pride" or whatever
"i lived in hollister, california and i wouldn't buy 'hollister' crap if my life depended on it."
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny what those things connote, as well; I remember hearing about the Wilmslow credit card that was available to certain Mancunians at I guess some point in the '90s, speaking to one's success & place; or conversely the M21 branded tote bags you can get in the sorta right-on area of Chorlton in Manchester today, identifying you as an environmentally conscious resident.xp
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
i buy local pickles :(
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
but everyone made fun of them on here cuz they were "fermented" instead of "pickled". :(
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
you try and make a pickle!
at least they're fucking trying! what the fuck have you done!? happy 50th birthday ian mackaye. sucks that you had to ruin the washington dc brand though you sanctimonious humorless hand-crafted straightedge bastard!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.viceland.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ianmackaye.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.fritolay.com/assets/images/blue/tostitos-artisan-roasted-garlic-black-bean.gif
http://www.thatfreebiesite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Free-Dominos-Pizza-300x257.jpg
http://gabbeliphotography.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451ff1869e20167629f2e8e970b-350wi
job creators.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
labor economy is good for strawmen itt
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
the article raises some interesting questions almost in spite of itself i think. the author is awfully agonized over how precious and god, how even embarrassing this whole artisanal phenomenon is! such conflicted feelings about tiny-batch granola and what is implies about him, as a person! if the author ruefully confesses a vulnerability to these handcrafted enticements, at least it's self aware! it's kind of funny, as much as he points out the broad caricature of the craft food industry he comes across as just as much of a caricature of a cultural critic.
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
That kind of good old-fashioned entrepreneurship can cost you friends in the east–of–the–East River artisan scene. The Brooklyn Kitchen, one of Brooklyn Salsa’s first retail accounts, stopped carrying the product. “I liked it better when it was a fresh product, not jarred,” co-owner Harry Rosenblum says. “They expanded. I saw it in a lot of places. It was a less special thing to offer.”
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
just amazing how worked up people are willing to get about some white people selling slightly overpriced food
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
creating cultural identity via the new sincerity
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
i think the article has interesting questions about how & whether these companies can grow to a larger scale --and if so, where should they grow? it's not just a little bizarre to think that a booming company is 'selling out' when they are becoming more efficient and employing more people! is there some perceived cultural value inherent to small-scale production other than the exclusivity & scarcity of its output? does 'authenticity' just mean this self-conscious, self-imposed scarcity?
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
for some brands it does, but there is prob a limit to the markup on salsa unlike hermes bags or whatever
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
idk, man, I have seen some pretty expensive salsa
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxnieYctVM
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
I like how they made it seem like the cow was talking at the end
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
well I guess people weren't willing to pay $500 for a bag before the created a market for it, so who knows, maybe $500 salsa is in our future
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
idk if you can fairly compare durable goods & food products like that but $500 is a steal for any hermes bag
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
tbf, older upscale brands typically are of high quality and will last forever, unless they've bowed to market demand and started churning out lower-quality product
then there's the new brands or some dude constructing stuff out of his apartment with unknown durability and longevity
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
maybe somebody will say '$500 is a steal for good salsa' in 10 years
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
you know that guy who is always like "irl a hamburger should cost $100" i think about that sometimes like would i pay $100 for a hamburger? a pretty good hamburger like once a year, maybe i would. like if it were a special birthday hamburger
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
hermes burger
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
Always hear Rancid's "Cash, Culture and Violence" when this thread pops up
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
you know that guy who is always like "irl a hamburger should cost $100"
you mean iatee?
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
well him but also this other guy
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
tbf this is why I think the demonizing of stuff as "pink slime" or whatever else is dumb. If people want to be stupid and eat a bunch of hamburgers per week, then there is no reason to raise a ton more cattle just so that they can overconsume top quality beef rather than sponging up the remaindered beef and not complaining about the difference.
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
artisan burgers on your birthday, responsible minimal meat consumption the other days
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
otm and you can get someone else to pay on your birthday
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think you can say these businesses are artificially creating a demand for fancy unconventional artisan foods, i mean, at least not in new york.
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
your tastes will expand to spend your income one way or another
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.cnbc.com/id/22040234/A_Visit_to_Warren_Buffett_s_Favorite_Restaurant
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
to do so would be cynical! and cynicism is just not part of the mission statement of my brooklyn-based handcraft pork rinds enterprise
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
warren buffett is kind of the example that proves the rule, in that his main taste is actually business or something
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
dude a cynical brooklyn-based handcraft pork rinds enterprise would do millions in business
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
"You fucking piece of shit, you're just going to buy this aren't you? I hate that I am making so much money off of you and your fucking beard."
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
"Buy some pork rinds and then maybe go die somewhere so I can be alone."
"My food truck is my Honda Fit, you can just grab some out of the back, I don't even care."
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
we're working on a lavender-vanilla infused pork rind right now, as well as a mojito flavor
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link