don't know how you read those sections in the first place. i like a smart recap though.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 07:21 (twelve years ago) link
then again, I did lodge a complaint with the AV Club that their review stated that "Britain won the World Cup".
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 07:22 (twelve years ago) link
The episode kind of encouraged that mistake
― Vasco da Gama, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
Union jack generally preferred over the st george's cross as the symbol of england until the last quarter of a century.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
i have to stop reading the comment sections of show recaps. "am i the ONLY ONE who noticed _____?" and like five other people have made the same observation already
Recap comments are just as bad as any news article comments, except instead of unhinged right wing foaming at the mouth you get smug self satisfaction.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link
stop reading the blogs, "recaps" are a plague imho
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
like i can see what david simon was getting at (weird, i just realized i had a dream about him last night where he fixed a hoodie of mine) when he went off on bloggers last week
what is the failure mode of a hoodie
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
you know in sports hoodies when the drawstring for the hood gets out and you can't get it back in? he had some complicated technique to get it back in involving miniature weights
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
Recaps are something I don't read unless it is something where I've missed a few episodes and I'm trying to catch up, or Mad Style since it's costume related.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
And was anyone else annoyed by Lane kissing Joan? For me, the whole appeal of their relationship was that they understood and empathized with one another, and their mutual respect kept things platonic. That kiss came outta nowhere, and just seemed like an insanely pointless distraction.
i don't think this came out of nowhere at all! there was that scene a few eps earlier where Joan was in Lane's office talking about how much she missed the office and i thought it was going to happen back then!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
i cant believe you actually watched the episode and lane's arc in it if you think that moment "came outta nowhere" or "felt hasty and tacked on"
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
Poor Lane, dude really is a fish out of water. Between his clumsy affair in the past, his fellow British dude thinking he was either too square or gay to actually have fun, and his officemates disrespecting him, he's had a weird run.
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
he won a fight tho
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
they're definitely carving out a place for him this season
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
In terms of his relationship with Joan, yeah, that's pretty much how it struck me.
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
I think only Pete really disrespecting him...the other guys were all pretty supportive of his attempt to woo new clients.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
There never seemed to be a lot of interaction between those two before and I don't think it feels that believable. T
the "pact" was explicitly addressed/shown at the end of last season when Peggy and Ken broke the firm's streak of losing business after Don's "letter"
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
slocki, do you mean to imply that lane kissed joan in part b/c his manliness had been challenged?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
I think he's pretty clearly been shown as super lonely, the whole thing with the mystery wallet woman a couple of episodes ago etc.
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
not s1ocki, but that's how i took it
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
that kiss did not "come out of nowhere" it was way telegraphed
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
plus yeah, his general alienation and sense of powerlessness
yes concluding with a completely unsatisfactory and mutually degrading fight
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
Laine will be a fucking hero for decking Pete, everyone wants to do it.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
to me Pete's needlessly brutal antagonizing of Lane was the part that seemed to come out of nowhere - in the past Lane's been at least supportive of Pete and they have shared some (albeit awkward) camraderie
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
lane just shit on him and accused him of losing a big account did u not notice that part
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but Pete's defensiveness got way out of hand pretty quick
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
I mean calling him "a homo" wtf
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
Pete was lashing out & sniping at whoever was a convenient target because he was feeling emasculated for a number of reasons.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
granted Pete was unloading on Lane because of his own problems with his masculinity
xp
ya for reals
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
Pete's character kind of a commentary on the present-day "regaining masculinity" people in his inability to find a way to really shine. He wants to somehow lead or be a success and he tries every stupid trick during the episode but ends up just looking like a dick for outing his coworker's extracurricular activities and even trying to mention his now near-useless family name to a high school kid.
I think if he existed in 2012 he wouldn't be in the "men have been denied their place by feminists/liberals/etc" but I don't think it'd be unfamiliar to his line of thought.
"You're my king."
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
yup.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
these ppl wouldnt exist in 2012 at all
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
Food for another thread, but I think that Pete's constant lack of self-realization or self-actualization is really the foundation of a certain type of backlash. Pete's sympathetic, at least to a point, with some of the civil rights struggles but the evident forces that are being confronted -- racism and sexism -- aren't really the ones that are causing him discontent. It might just be a frustration that his character will never shake, but I think a lot of people see others successfully struggling against oppressive forces and decide that their own failures -- or in Pete's case, just the lack of an overwhelming success -- are the result of oppression or someone taking what's his.
So far, Pete's only gone as far as complaining about how he thinks he's more competent than others, thankfully.
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
xp dream on.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
There are Pete's at every company I've ever worked at.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
I thought carousing and going to the Playboy Club and shit was Lane's favorite thing about America! How come all of a sudden in this episode it's like none of that ever happened? Based on the version of Lane that we've seen in previous seasons, if the dinner with the Jaguar guy is boring and seemed to have hit a wall, I'd have expected Lane to be like "Fuck it, let's go get drunk and ogle cocktail waitresses, eh chap?"
― Dan I., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
even in this episode they had a bloody good time getting pissed and watching the footy
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
He thought he was supposed to be proper British dude since he met the guy in the guise of being proper British people with his wife and the dude's wife! I think he's not good at navigating the different spheres.
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was pretty obvious it was because Jaguar Guy's wife took it to Lane's wife. Be seen to do something, rather than necessarily do something.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
"chewing gum on his pubis"
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
lane knows how to partyhttp://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzd5njWk3h1qkpccwo1_500.gif
― mizzell, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
best lane line - “I’ve heard men talk with dark permanence of those years.”
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
his astute britishisms kill me
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Difference I think is that Lane partied with Don and at the playboy club on his own time, but I think he sees taking a client to a brothel as beyond the pale.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think anyone needs a reason to want to kiss Joan.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
like i said upthread, they'd hinted at it (Lane wanny smoochy Joan) before - but what i think put him over the top was the adrenaline rush of getting into a fight (and winning).
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
so who was Lane with at the pub watching the World Cup? his wife who he's semi-separated from? (or not separated from?) I feel like I forgot a plot turn somewhere, I thought she moved back to London.
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link