it's important to remember that Don's ideal partner was set up as the psychologist woman and they would have been perfect and it felt like a huge letdown on Don's part to suddenly decide that he wanted to marry Megan. Like he was regressing to this simple, and totally hot, secretary.
I always assumed that the reason Don didn't end up with Faye is in large part because Faye was so terrible with children, which is pretty important for him, since he has no idea what to do with them).
― silverfish, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
"i never believe that pete is an actual human being or that he would excel in his corporate role, but he's a lot of fun to watch (and hate)."
This is so weird, because does Pete seem like a very slightly exaggerated version of people I have met and whom I have seen excel despite being largely despised by everyone around/under them.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
Megan seems to make an awful lot of social faux-paus. Dropping that Don was divorced at the Heinz meeting, loudly exclaiming Cynthia's name at the dinner party, embarassing Don at his surprise party...
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
hands up if you couldn't remember kenneth's wife name either
― y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
(it's not usually my habit to read recaps/re-watch eps of long-form dramas so i don't really remember tiny details of this show the way y'all have tho)
They should've asked Pete, who should've confessed he didn't know either. I should definitely be a Mad Men script consultant.
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― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
I actually not sure she'd even been named in the show up until that point.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ yeah I don't think she'd even been on-screen...? maybe at the last Xmas party?
they should've asked TRUDY
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
she's been on screen a number of times, ken was out to dinner with her and her parents, at don's party. pretty sure ken mentioned her name in the office.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
Cynthia Cosgrove (Larisa Oleynik) (née Baxter) is Ken Cosgrove's wife, the daughter of Ed (Ray Wise), who is the CEO of Corning. Cynthia is a New York society girl, who appears to have moved in the same Manhattan social circles as the presumably older Trudy Campbell. In season four, Cosgrove refuses to use Ed's connections to get new clients for Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, claiming that he doesn't want to be like Pete Campbell. He calls Cynthia "his life" and unlike Pete Campbell, does not want to use her or his future father-in-law to get business. In the fifth season premiere, her character is listed during the credits as Cynthia Cosgrove, implying that they were married between the fourth and fifth seasons.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
ah right Ray Wise!!!
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
too bad u can't rss subscribe to that fashion blog's mad men posts w/out getting everything along with them
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
some of yall really pull out the magnifying glass on this show huh
good episode
― man down (D-40), Friday, 20 April 2012 08:05 (twelve years ago) link
oh no roger
this will not end well
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
the time is totally out of order, this is great
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
roger trippin ballsdon and Megan bein assy to each othereveryone is so miserable, this is gorgeous
― arsenio and old ma$e (m bison), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
This whole episode feels pretty gimmicky to me so far. Maybe I just don't want to watch a show about the 60s...
― s.clover, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
Megan acting out was pretty good though.
― s.clover, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
Amazing episode. I feel like they fit three hours of Mad Men into one hour.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
Roger tripping was done way better than I expected.
― LaMonte, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
i liked how about 1/3 of the way through you realize the episode isn't in linear time
don/megan drama is getting ridiculous
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 23 April 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
they have a real weird relationship
― call all destroyer, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
Megan is the adult in the room at almost all times, for sure.
Also, and I'm sure it was intentional, there were some shots of Jane in this episode that made her one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
I think I'm gonna rewatch this after work tomorrow. There's no way my brain could process all that was happening.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
Awesome episode. They've definitely gotten considerably ballsier in terms of style and pace this season IMO.
― Simon H., Monday, 23 April 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
i lol'd so hard @ rogers "its going to be a beautiful day"
― johnny crunch, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't watched this yet; did they play "White Rabbit"?
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 April 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
"I Just Wasn't Made For this World" :)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 April 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
white rabbit is from '67 so no
― call all destroyer, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
that's not the title of the song xp
― Grimy Little Pimp (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 April 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyhU2mVyFAk
― s.clover, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
Oh.. These Times, maybe? The Beach Boys. Sorry!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 April 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
What a weird episode! Also my uh…version had 10 minutes of a Lifetime show spliced in. Which was extra confusing.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 23 April 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
Mad Men isn't on lifetime? What have I been watching? Oh my..
― s.clover, Monday, 23 April 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
So far this is my favorite episode.
― *tera, Monday, 23 April 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
lol that happened to me too...took a second to realize it wasn't a shot of young sally
― High powered Texas lawyer (symsymsym), Monday, 23 April 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
"there were some shots of Jane in this episode that made her one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen."
no kidding; she also talked and had a lot more personality in this episode than I ever remember seeing. the shots of her on the bed at the end were stunning.
i really like megan.
― akm, Monday, 23 April 2012 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
great episode, though i thought the 3-way bad relationship parallelism was maybe a little forced? roger tripping was classic though, and i loved the hojos detour. such a weird and great design scheme. don is a flaming fucking asshole btw.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link
This is definitely the best episode of the season; likely top five for the series.A/B/C plots all excellent.About time; I was getting less and less engaged and a show like this was just what I needed to remind me why I watch Mad Men.
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
I thought the opposite of Jane. Sort of. While she will always be beautiful I thought she was more serious than she had been in other episodes and sad. I thought she was a very good actress to look less attractive not because she is but because of hat she was emoting: sadness, confusion. I remember thinking she was so gorgeous when she first appeared as the hot secretary. This episode had her looking slightly vintage Star Trek vixenish but jaded and that eclipsed everything, for me at least.
― *tera, Monday, 23 April 2012 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry: *what not "hat" she was emoting....
― *tera, Monday, 23 April 2012 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
Wonder if they are just really going to do away with her so quickly or the exact opposite and show her more now that she and Roger are quits.
― *tera, Monday, 23 April 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
it's weird to see don crying again
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 23 April 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
i liked this episode a lot. no pete, but i'm sure that will be rectified soon.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 23 April 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
― raw feel vegan (silby)
Ha, mine too.
Roger on acid should've been funnier IMO.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
I thought that was the right amount of funny. My favorite part was when he responded to the professor but his lips weren't moving.
― dan selzer, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
amazing episode. up there with the best of the series imo.
the trip scene started out a little corny (orchestra playing out of the vodka bottle) but as it went on it was pretty well done I thought. the end of it where they got really deep into their relationship while they were coming down felt real.
― dmr, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of that, didn't Timothy Leary already look a little bit more "counterculture" by 1966?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't really buying Peggy giving some random guy a handjob in a movie theater just because she made a bad pitch
― dmr, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
She'd had a fight with her bf, lost it at her pitch, decided to play hooky, smoked some random guy's joint, and maybe just felt like being bad. Peggy is all about behaving out of character when no one expects.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link