btw i think i found out abt this blog on the frankendance thread
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
anti-hipsters and hipsters who of course are the same people
ding
― Eddie Funnie (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe I'm being unfair to hipster run off.
x-post thing is I don't think anti-hipsters and hipsters are the same people, there is a difference there but it isn't that one group is trying to be cool and the other is mad fucking real.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean theres no way to know absolutely everything abt hipsters like this guy carles does w/o being one - thats part of the joke - the awesome joke
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link
So this guy is the American max r, right?
― CHAKI Musician (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
only anti-hipsters even know who the hipsters are/what they are. they are bonded by a shared frame of reference.
― Eddie Funnie (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
anti hipsters are the neurotic version of hipsters i think
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
http://1416andcounting.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/face_off.jpg
― Matt DC, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe ice cr?am, but people do end up knowing tons of stuff about things they despise.
I don't think, in whatever way we can use terms like "anti-hipsters" (probably not at all reliably) that they are always the same sort of people as hipsters.
EG I know some really outspoken anti-hipsters for whom clothes/fashion seems to be the big hatred point they tag to hipsters, who aren't actually into clothes/fashion themselves at all.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
and he too is a really good writer - i read that whole long ass animal collective piece w/o ever even considering abandoning it - just sailed right through
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
nazis knew a lot about communism but that didn't make them communists.
I do like this debate though, and not to overegg things but I am incessantly thinking of this quote from Robert Musil in the context of this sort of post-internet trainwreck/debate.
"When looking at a set of ideas in action, it draws its supplies of additional troops and intellectual matériel not only from its own depots but also from those of its opponents"
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
omg u know what--maybe there is a disagreement abt hipsters vs. anti-hipsters--because no one can agree on what 'hipster' means!?!?!?!?
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
indie gone sexy
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
2003, its good to have you back
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post max you've cracked it
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
basically 6 billion+ people just need to say out loud "oh fuck it everything's just bullshit intended to impress someone else" and that will trigger the endtimes...
― snoball, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i think anti-hipsterism is kind of crazy because like--who thought you could be resentful of the most resentful people on earth!
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:41 PM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dom passantino is a hipster?
― Eddie Funnie (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
actually now that i think about it "resentful about the most resentful people on earth" sort of describes the nazis
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
therefore--anti-hipsters = nazis
can't fault this logic bomb
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
jews are resentful...?
― Eddie Funnie (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
for whom clothes/fashion seems to be the big hatred point they tag to hipsters, who aren't actually into clothes/fashion themselves at all.
No, they DRESS like they're not into clothes, but it's a carefully studied pose. I'm not anti-hipster, I'm just anti-leggings.
:D
― How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
hipsters vs altBros?
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
come on
― matt p (Matt P), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
cum on
already?
― matt p (Matt P), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I just read the Animal Collective post, I didn't find it that impressive, needs to self edit. Plus it's smartass in tone without actually being funny.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/animal_collective-pic-by-adriano-fe.jpg
i lold
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
would like to hear a positive interpretation of it though, to actually see what others think the point is.
x-post the other thing is the notion of "internet music" is a good one but there are tons more acts whom it fits much more than Animal Collective. Strawperson #1 is a friend of mine who barely uses email, has no Facebook etc is a big AC fan...can't imagine her liking bloghouse or something...
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/animalc_2.jpg
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
so the point of hipsterunoff is that every single thing you say about it is part of the joke...great
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
wait so if hipsterism is a stream and this blog is the runoff of the stream, sort of the crystalization of hipsters, the silt of the hipsters is that right
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
or maybe its a sexy race who knows
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
in an ironical twist the site keeps crashing while im trying to link to awesome posts
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
in the bar i work at the other day this fairly normal looking guy wanted to watch the darts on television, a nearby group sneered "oh is this the new hipster new cross thing - watching darts ironically?" to peels of laughter. thing is they were playing fucking scrabble in the pub.
― rio (r1o natsume), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
we are through the ironic looking glass here people
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
CORRECTION
in the bar i work at the other day this fairly normal looking guy wanted to watch the darts on television, a nearby group sneered "oh is this the new hipster new cross thing - watching darts ironically?" to peels peals of laughter. thing is they were playing fucking scrabble in the pub.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
just as an FYI^^
yeah you could sorta see it as VERY hipster in the sense that it seems to be policing and deflating pretentions of hipsterism...thus critical reading for the evolution of hipsterism.
― ryan, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
this is turning into a full fledged ilxor.com thread now - cool
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
the world has gone mad with hipsterism
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
you cant even kick an irony in the street anymore
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
been reading this for a while, it's adorable!
― disco is the reason (daria-g), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I also dispute the "he's a good writer" bit, that AC thing went on forever...and the irritating academic thesis tone is hard to take too.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't load it..."database error"?
― How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
lol laurel dont u get the joke???!?! "database error".... hipsters!>!?!?!?
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
the site's overrun with hipsters--how typical
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
lately i've appreciated the posts on how tv on the radio are not that good, also the indoor soccer shoes, i have a pair of those exact shoes in a box under my desk b/c keep meaning to exchange for the right size, but now i am not sure if they fit my personal brand
― disco is the reason (daria-g), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i cant believe this whole OMG IRONY meme is still going it even predates hipsters - people should just get over it - irony is just one of the beautiful rainbow ways of communicating
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Between the poptimism recap and the Carles interview, it seems like Fader is trying to reach that coveted "the 300 people that regularly read ILX" demographic
hahaha
feel like we shld deconstruct the instutionalcore look in interior design going on rn if were gonna be serious about things
― dead (Lamp), Sunday, 11 October 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
i looked this up on the wayback machine recently.
some of it was still funny and prescient.
but the main thing that jumped out was that it was often shockingly sexist. "ironically" i guess but still.
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
wonder what carles is up to
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
Probably a content marketing strategist, whatever that is
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
Strange that he disappeared so suddenly. Seems he has a certain talent that he could have milked in some way (I guess maybe he did and I just don’t know about it)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
was sick of the blog life
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
didn’t he write for grantland for a hot minute?
― 525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
whaat
h/t @davetroy for this tweet today which led me to watch the video. Not my usual fare.https://t.co/Y1oaTpKXzD— Jackie Singh 🇺🇦 🇺🇸 (@hackingbutlegal) March 23, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link
oops that s reply this is the tweet i want
NEW: Grimes Admits to Blackmail, Extortion, and Hacking in Vanity Fair Video Interviewcc @derektmead for an uncertain closure to his original article on this topic from a decade ago.https://t.co/hjQDFSsmiI #infosec #cybercrime— Jackie Singh 🇺🇦 🇺🇸 (@hackingbutlegal) March 23, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link
No, alt QT!
― peace, man, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link
Lol this thread is a nostalgia trip.
It’s funny reading about idosing and people being mindblown with those binaural “cutting hair” youtube vids.
Wonder what carles would have thought about asmr
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:55 (two years ago) link
HR came to prominence in this weird moment where the group of friends I'd go to hipster runoff-esque bands and bars kind of dispersedtransition from the blog house scene to edm/etcphoto blogs of parties in nyc/la/etc kind of disappeared as people got iphones/etc
part of it was me getting old (late 20s lol) but it seemed like a shift?
lots of good stuff in this thread, real time capsule
― mh, Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link
Yeah 2010 does feel like a long time ago reading some of the comments in this thread
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:25 (two years ago) link
lol, I ctrl-f'd myself in the thread and was like "why did I have so many opinions on a blog I never read...? oh, because I was talking about how much I like Vegas"
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link
ftr this latest revelation went straight on the "I've been telling you all for years that Grimes is terrible" pile
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link
same
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link
Hipster runoff warned us about her more than a decade ago.
Been reading the posts about her and yeah in retrospective she has always been unpalatable. I guess I tolerated it better when her music didn’t suck.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link
It's amazing she's been able to last this long despite being The Fucking Worst since day one. I mean, you would think "high school art girl version of Matthew Barney" would have a naturally short shelf life, but it's been a decade and a half or something at this point.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
My timeline with Grimes is basically: "oh, ppl say she makes gothy pixie music, that's 100% my bag" *listens to Visions* "holy hell this is unmitigated bullshit, wtf"*hears Purity Ring*"oh this is what I thought Grimes was going to sound like; here Grimes, you can have all of my middle fingers"
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
the one with the video at the monster truck rally is fine enough but I don't think I've ever sought out another Grimes banger
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link
No some of her songs are incredible including Vanessa, Flesh Without Blood, and Oblivion
― treeship., Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
Oblivion is not incredible, it is interminable
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHFwabVJec
haha holy shit you'd have to pay me to watch a video with that thumbnail
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link
I dont like the new stuff as much
― treeship., Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link
not to go all hro here, but grimes has always been a bunch of tumblr posts come to life for all that entails
― mh, Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link
She had a cool sound though and I liked her music in my early twenties. Some of the tracks hold up in my opinion.
― treeship., Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link
“visions (demo)” and “violence” are both songs I enjoy a lot
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link
sorry, not “visions” meant “REALIty (demo)”
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
Vowels=space and time is another really good one
― treeship., Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
kind of wish someone was doing a less-toxic but still sarcastically critical type of blog now when I see headlines likeWHY ORANGETHEORY HIRED STEVE AOKI AS ITS CMO—CHIEF MUSIC OFFICER
― mh, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:49 (two years ago) link
Never forget!
https://i.imgur.com/6KB31sT.jpg
― The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link
the whole of chillwave grimes et al i was like i respect the audacity of making music that sounds like singing along to the radio playing in the other room but i dont respect it that much
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 March 2022 01:56 (two years ago) link
'player of games' is sick
― flopson, Friday, 25 March 2022 02:03 (two years ago) link
WHY ORANGETHEORY HIRED STEVE AOKI AS ITS CMO—CHIEF MUSIC OFFICER
Yeah, I feel like when he took breaks from doing some of the grosser hounding of musicians his voice could work really well for a specific sort of at-large cultural criticism.
e.g. Urban Outfitters stock is in 'the shitter', CEO resigns. Are alt retailers dying?
Urban Outfitters stock is in 'the shitter', CEO resigns. Are alt retailers dying?
― dell (del), Friday, 25 March 2022 03:03 (two years ago) link
There was a really good one or maybe series of ones referencing edison lightbulb, mason jars, exposed brick sort of aesthetic trend in coffeehouses, "gastropubs" that was really satisfying. He was good at that stuff I think.
― dell (del), Friday, 25 March 2022 03:12 (two years ago) link
Oh wait I just read all 3000 posts on this thread and I guess that was prev mentioned.
― dell (del), Friday, 25 March 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link
whither carles
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 25 June 2023 22:00 (eleven months ago) link
i’ve been enjoying the stuff brad troemel’s been putting on ig/patreon lately. like a historicization of post-internet art and online culture of the last 15-ish years. his style is ymmv but imo it’s informative and interesting. this one was about carles/hr:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cq3IWYeg4Rj/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
― flopson, Monday, 26 June 2023 08:54 (eleven months ago) link