A thread for AMC's The Killing, a remake of much-lauded Danish drama "Forbrydelsen"

I thought the second season of this was much, much tighter than the second-half of the first season where it really felt like it was floundering. a very strong finish also.

the only lingering thing is: isn't Stan going to, like, go to prison for beating the teacher half to death?

When things actually pulled together with a single conspiracy and some genuine stakes, yeah. It was decent. I thought the ending was a bit overmuch manipulative though...

no doubt this would have been more successful and more taut as a longer single series. a lot of the filler red-herring misdirections from season 1 just seem pointless in the end.

the ending: her film? it was but it was also kind of touching. I liked that we finally got to see this girl in the final episode.

not just the film, but the last twist. "i didn't know it was her." felt gratuitous, like something you can get away with at the end of an L&O episode, but not a whole two seasons of a show.

i liked it but i like cheap shit like that.

when richmond had jackson and ames over I thought for sure they were going to arrest them as accessories or for obstructing justice but no, he was fulfiling the slimy deal jamie set up. I liked that too.

RIP

No third season then?

I liked season 1 of this more than most ppl and was into season 2 til I got tired of trying to find valid DL links with episode 4. Hopefully it'll go up on netflix like s1 did.

i don't see how they could have done a third season really.

but it still doesn't mean rubicon is ever coming back :-(

So I had no idea this was coming back until the other day. Decent first hour (didn't watch the second yet); hopeful they can restart this and don't slip down the useless pathways that mucked up the last season (although I was fine with the end of season 2).

Wasn't expecting this a

at all.

Didn't read anything about a stay of execution.

i watched seasons 1 and 2 over the winter. not great, some real low points, but not the worst most vile show ever like the internet would have u believe... the season 2 finale directed by patty jenkins had some great moments

It is the type of series I will watch even though I know it ain't much cop. The discerning fucker that I am.

the guy who plays holder is really compelling, amazing that a swedish guy could master the white rapper accent so well

His father is american, so he had a bit of a head start. But yeah he is pretty good.

i think the same people who hated the divergent low points in seasons 1 and 2 are the same sorts of people who couldn't stand that laura palmer's killer wasn't revealed at the end of season 1

watched the second hour. great set up so far, hope it follows through. last scene was fucking haunting.

i actually just finished the second series of the danish show, which was great. is the us show worth catching up with as well, or is it basically the same plot-wise?

I'm not sure. I think it's worth watching but people felt like it took too long and had too many red herrings. the plot resolution was really good though, just not sure if it was the same one

and I don't think season 3 is based at all on the danish series other seasons, or at least it doesn't sound like it

Is there any point whatsoever to someone who really enjoyed the original watching the US version?

so i binged on the first season of this the past week and really enjoyed it. then i watched the first episode of the second season *MINOR SPOILER I GUESS* and was pretty put off by the conspiracy direction it seems to be taking. am i in for an entire season of confusing political intrigue?

RIP The Killing, someone pls export Joel Kinnaman's character to a better show immediately.

man i hate this chick's face

also i don't understand the sound production, it seems like everyone is super close miked or like they voiceovered it after shooting or something. for added presence and INTENSITY

"Six Minutes" is better than this show deserved. Season 3 is solid so far though.

binge-watched all of season 1 and half of season 2 while I was sick last week...though tbf I had to have a break a few times and watch some gilmore girls or veronica mars or lame tv just to wash all the gloom off, watching all those eps in a row the rain reaaaaally started to get to me

I really hate Mitch Larsen's character, but Commander Kane's was v good to make her such a punchable character. Love Brendan Sexton III, though he did p good as Belko (no-one ever explained what his actual name is did they? for half the show I thought his name was Balko like the cartoon dog)

Love Kinnaman. The way he's so chill and the way he talks reminds me so much of a friend of mine. "In the bloodsport of life, I am your sensei" <3 <3

I think that quote from the producer upthread about the red herrings is pretty key. It's really not meant to play out like a normal join the dots procedural. I liked that it was a lot more human in the way some things just seem important but it turns out they're not, mistakes happen idk I dug that. and the family stuff was p good too, I thought.

oh and I dug the Twin Peaksian vibe of it. cold and weird and slightly surreal.

Liked the way it resolved s2. Now I need to wait for S3 to be free on Amazon so I can binge that.

The Larsen family, as individuals, various subsets, and the whole chain, kept me watching Seasons 1 and 2, bravo. I didn't feel motivated to follow Season 3 so closely, though the street kids were good, whenever they did get some screen time. The ending was written so it could well be considered *the* end, but still with some room for further speculation, and fan fiction, of course---also, if somehow the show got uncancelled yet again--well, the writers set themselves up for quite a challenge. And now
http://lostremote.com/back-from-the-dead-netflix-begins-instagram-promotion-for-season-4-of-the-killing_b42027

Yeah, Belko was good too, that miserable little bastard.

I cruised through season 2 mostly on inertia and fondness for these actors tbh, but Season 3 is actually factually excellent.

season 3 episode 9 (dir. Jonathan Demme) just made me cry, amazing and could be watched independently of the rest of the show w/o too much confusion.

is season 3 a new mystery?

i need to see s3, totally forgot about it!

Yeah, S3 is a new mystery. Thought it was significantly better than the first two seasons but it still had issues. Final season trailer just popped up.

Wow, Demme.

Basically all that carries over from 1 and 2 is the accrued characterizations and personal histories of the cops.

also s3 is largely about homeless teens, a milieu for which I am a total sucker

just started s3

this show made me realize how much i love inscrutability in characters

it should be a keyword search in netflix

also all this rain & bad weather is good for helping me forget that it's hot as balls here in sactown

Sometimes I like to imagine how bad Holder's hoodie stinks.

How to you take it Linden???

http://plannedbanter.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/mireille-enos-on-the-killing.jpg

The new season, which I would assume is definitely the last, is decent enough. It's up on Netflix now.

Totally off-topic but I couldn't find a general new series related thread. There is an Italian 12 episode spin-off series of the movie Gomorrah out there, so far I could only find a version with Finnish subs. Looks very promising.

Season 3 was so good, I'm p psyched for the new concluding batch

ust finished this final season. Pretty predictable/safe.

Finished last night. Carl and I were discussing the ending, and she thinks that the implication was that Holder and Linden were going to become romantically involved. I guess, maybe? But I took it just to mean that they were going to become best friends again and hang out more. If I recall, neither of them had any romantic feelings for each other through the course of the series, so for it to pop up right at the end would be weird.

Overall, I loved this. It's not the greatest series ever, but the tone and mood of it were very appealing to me.

Series 4 not on series 3's level but really good. I took the ending as relationship romantic but it's cool that it's interpretable the other way.

I'm gonna miss seeing mirielle enos' face making crazy expressions of consternation and suppressed anger.

I remember thinking the final episode was particularly well-directed, then realized its director was Jonathan Demme!

Fashionably late as always, we just blasted through this whole thing in a couple weeks and finished last night. The further I get from it, the more I feel like this was a lot of good acting and directing in the service of total garbage. The killer reveal at the end of season two was frustratingly stupid and out of left field in the same way as that goddamn first season of Broadchurch (well, we've evoked and ruled out plausible suspect after plausible suspect until just about every credited actor has been exonerated soooo...I guess the guilty party is whoever's left? even if it makes no real sense?). And then the reveal at the end of the third season....hoo boy. I actually called the penultimate suspect very early on as a total goof because there was no reason to suspect him until there was. But the person who actually did it? The first thing that popped into my mind was Merv Griffin being revealed as the serial killer at the end of The Man With Two Brains. 'I've always just loved to kill. I really enjoyed it.' That was roughly the level of depth and rationale that we got.

In all, though, I thought those first three seasons were v. good with the character development even if the whodunnit shtick was completely cockeyed. So leave it to the fourth season to completely spoil the aspect that actually worked. I was not a fan of that final moment of season three (although I'm sure it felt very thematically satisfying for whichever writer came up with the idea), but Linden and Holder's response to that event over the course of the final season was completely ludicrous. I was just like, do you seriously actually want me to come to hate these characters in their final hours? What is that? The very very ending was fine but felt kinda unearned.

Wasn't this thing feted when it was new? Maybe there's a reason I haven't heard a peep about it in the intervening years. At any rate, still thought pretty much all of the central performers were great and I want to see them in other, better things.