scientology & celebrities

http://www.scientology-tampa.org/sites/default/files/05-Scientology-Tampa-Grand-Opening-David-Miscavige.jpg

http://www.scientology.org/sites/default/files/1_05-Church-of-Scientology-Sacramento-David-Miscavige-t_0.jpg

Ugh he looks like a creepy robot.

http://www.scientologynews.org/sites/default/files/church-of-scientology-washington-dc-opening-speaker-david-miscavige.jpg

it IS really sci-fi! like a network t.v. mini-series a la V. if they didn't torture people or whatever i would be all for them.

http://www.scientology-phoenix.org/sites/default/files/phx/10-Church-of-Scientology-Phoenix-David-Miscavige-and-OLs.jpg

http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/tom-cruise-david-miscavige.jpg

Lifts or no, if Tom Cruise is a good three inches taller than that guy, then Miscavige must be tiny.

Also, can I just say "miscavige of justice?" There, thanks. I feel better.

Yeah I seem to recall reading that Miscavige is about 5'1"

It's like North Korea: either the goofy aesthetics raise awareness of what they're doing or they distract from the sadistic practices underneath (like the story quoted above that's about to scroll off).

i had no idea the voice had done such extensive scientology coverage; all those articles linked at the bottom could keep me busy for hours.

I didn't either and spent the afternoon doing just that.

yeah the voice did that long cruise ship story, right? about people being held prisoner aboard the sci boat. that was a good one.

'cruise' ship

So the news up there is that Miscavige's dad and Hubbard's last granddaughter involved with the church at all have both fled the compound and left the church.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/06/scientology_roanne_leake_ron_miscavige_sr.php

there's your new york post headline: SINKING CRUISE SHIP

something tells me rupert would love nothing more than to destroy one good celebrity-riddled pseudo-religion before he kicks the bucket. the psy-ops better watch their backs.

This one has a good scene of the church (through Cruise's assistant) trying to get Cruise's CAA agents to punish Comedy Central/Viacom for the South Park episode.

Miscavige, he says, had told Doven to get tough with the agency.

"Huvane and Nicita were sitting there trying to explain to us that this is what Comedy Central does. It's comedy, don't get your knickers in a twist," Rinder says.

"Little did they know that Doven had been wound up in a meeting at ASI [Author Services, Inc., another Scientology entity] by Miscavige. 'You better get in their faces! You better impinge on them!' Miscavige yelled."
...
"And he's there pounding his fists on the table at CAA, shouting, 'Fuck this! Fuck this!' It was quite funny, actually. You could see Rick and Kevin looking at each other, wondering what was going on."

Best headline:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/xenu-enraged-katie-betrayed

that headline would make a great vintage science fiction paperback cover.

people still talk about ghosts. i think i know more people who claim to have seen or otherwise perceived a ghost than people (like me) who've been denied such experience.

― contenderizer, Sunday, July 1, 2012 6:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ posts very much in character

Pretty much my entire family has seen ghosts, and I totally feel like i believe in them, but sadly i have never actually seen one.

i deny you a ghost experience

"thought-based organization"

http://tribalinsight.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/i-want-to-believe.jpg

man, i love ufos. they rule. i loooooooove the recent ufo footage on youtube. there must be a thread for that. there is that footage of one day in the summer where all over the world people have video of ufos and its incredible.

there must be a thread for that.

if not, feel free to start it. i would watch a few youtubes of indistinct shiny or blobby things doing stuff.

otm. i want the best real ufo youtube links

okay i will do this first i have to box up several 45s then i will get on it.

not to be a nervous nelly or anything but is hotlinking from x3nu a good idea?

I am no longer a mod on this site so I will say "yes! ^_^"

It would be kind of funny if we got a couple of them to come here to argue and/or convert.

I read those voice articles and then spent about two hours reading an ex-sci message board last night. So damn weird.

A lot of the ex-Sci folks seemed really embarrassed about having bought into what is clearly total crazypants level bullshit. I felt really bad for the ones who had been born into it. :/

Is this thread deindexed?

There seem to be a lot in your part of the world, J!

From the articles/messages/blogs, it seems like there could be a split in the church, with the folks leaving the fold starting a pope-less
practice.

which message board, enbb?

Eazy, you mean that there is a schism brewing or it has already happened?

Is this thread deindexed?

― just1n3, Monday, July 2, 2012 12:33 PM (8 minutes ago)

It is now, though that won't help with hotlinked art.

Mordy: http://www.forum.exscn.net/forum .php - remove the spaces between forum and .

This New Year email was sent by a career exec in the church, and holds its current practices up against quotes from Hubbard himself. From, what I've read, some of e other high-level folks who have left since credit her letter as a catalyst to their keaving. This blog from the church's former #2 is also gets to the heart of whether the religion can be practiced without the church.

Oh, I read about her last night! There are definitely some people who believe in the basic principles but think the org itself is fucked up and problematic but it seemed like most of ex folks think it's just bs through and through at this point.

sorta hilarious that people wonder if you can practice veneration of a hierarchy without a hierarchy

like let's have a cult of personality with no personality! okay

the voice strongly suggests that rathbun is a halfway house between institutional scientology + no scientology (the space inbetween being non-institutional scientology)

http://i46.tinypic.com/34zk085.jpg

when clicking on this thread a few moments ago

just sayin'...

jack parsons was right!

also, non-institutional scientologists aren't jettisoning hubbard (and see rathbun's critique of the voice's #1 biggest threat to scientology list for example of how they reconcile well-documented hubbardisms w/ loving him)

Ok so a good friend of mine recently confessed that she was deeply involved in sci for a really long time - maybe 15-20yrs?. She was really scared to tell me bc she thought I wouldn't want to be her friend anymore.

She grew up in la, and was introduced to it (more like, seduced into it) via her older brothers friend, who is the nephew of a v v famous sci member. She was only about 12 at the time, and they totally brainwashed her.

She's had a pretty crazy life and is writing a memoir, which will also be partly a tell-all about the sci church. She worked as a counselor in their celebrity center at one point, and she told me that the celeb sci clients get a whole different thing - none of the alien stuff, and I think none of the ” difficult” or more fucked up stuff. They are the cash cows, so they get v special treatment.

She was also (I think still is?) v close to one of lrh's sons.

I wish I could remember some of the more crazy stories she told me.

i don't believe brainwashing is real. i think it's a story ppl tell to let themselves off the hook for believing + doing stupid things.

nb i think persuasion and convincing is obv real, but there isn't like something special about the way scientology recruits that is distinguishable from the way numerous other organizations, legit + otherwise, convince ppl to follow their mission and get onboard. whether it's a political party, an environmental organization, an established religious one, a fraternal or communal org, etc.