― gareth, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Right hand neighbours are what is known as a MYSTERY to me. Sometimes I hear their door banging but never see anyone there.
People across in the other block listen to loud ravey music 24/7. In fact I think it is probably GREG SCARTH, you git.
― Sarah, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Emma, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Pete, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Divide *within* Dorset roughly along constituency lines - West and North more Tory, many fewer people moving in from outside, a lot of foxhunting etc: South (my patch) much more Labour support, edgier, rougher, more move in: Mid and North Poole generally Lib Dem, "new economy" and technocracy, Poole and Bournemouth vast conurbation and more and more studenty, Christchurch very genteel / retired. The split here is a North / South one (rural areas of West and East much the same): "deep country" / more socially mobile coastal areas. Interested in more such divides within counties from those who've lived there.
Mark M's and Gareth's myths both very true: I have literally never had a conversation with my neighbours, and this is no inner-city area ...
Mark S, I imagine people in Hertfordshire feeling like that when the new towns came in: wasn't Telford basically the Stevenage / Basildon etc. of the Birmingham / West Midlands overspill?
Billy: I could never have faced the National Centre for Popular Music in Sheffield (which was criticised *for the wrong reasons* by the usual trad-right Blair-bashers) after Momus's hagiography 2 years back. Great writing. "Elton John's sales figures" indeed!
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
1. Momus wrote a hagiography of the National Pop Music Centre that referenced Elton John's
2. Part of this involved mentioning the focus given to Elton John's sales figures
3. This put you off
The mystery might me solved in a rather dull way if you are misusing the word 'hagiography'
― Nick, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
It's my sleep deprivation, Nick. It all fits ...
― Greg, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Naughty North or the Sexy South? Dunno, but if London and Birmingham could swop places = Classic!
― DavidM, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― patrick, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anthony
― Anthony Sanderson, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Colloquial Northern English is much closer to Scottish-English than Southern-English, and Northerners generally find it easier to get on with their Celtic cousins than those in the South (in my experience). Many Geordies and Scousers prefer not to identify themselves as English.
― stevo, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
come to sheffield at 12 pm sundays to laugh at them 'dancing' i nthe carparks. the howard is just over the roundabout from the station so you dont have to walk far.
― ambrose, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ed Woods, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Which says it all about Londoners, Ed.
I'm still not sure whether I live in the West Country or the South of England. Anywhere in Somerset is the former, Bournemouth the latter (and Wimborne, for that matter), but Portland is *right* on the cusp.
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ed Woods, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Jonnie, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Debatable, highly debatable in fact. I doubt I'll ever go back to Dorset, shame really, but there you go.
― chris, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
(= major bid for joke of the month btw)
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Poole although this may be the reason Jonnie is talking about "The harbour is now the worlds biggest natural one following those Aussies building all over theirs. "
Sydney
Tim will be pleased to hear that Falmouth claims the world's third largest!!!!
and Halifax, Nova Scotia claims to be the second largest in area but the largest in terms of water volume.
more to follow undoubtedly.
dunno - I have been there though and it is nice. But probably not as nice as Arne ;)
http://www.infomagic.net/~martince/wlbanana.htm
― RickyT, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N., Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Chris, don't summon Candyman Pinefox. These days, he's all about disparaging me.
― DG, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
No = no one, it's too much effort to bother writing out complete sentences when it comes to N.
there's a case to be made for the moral superiority of the north in terms of how much more plausible their lumpen mra/roid psycho was compared to this cargo cult imbecile
Inside-mind-Wolverine-Videos-reveal-bizarre-ramblings-21-year-old-triple-murder-suspect-struggled-cope-mother-s-alcoholism-parents-separation-job-hated.html
― serene manish (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 May 2015 12:24 (nine years ago) link
great dn
this lad needed a nice youth club but there all closed now
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Monday, 25 May 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link
I've come to the conclusion and, the fact that this thread exists helps confirm it, that the Midlands is a bit of a mystery to me. For a start, I don't know where anything is. I had no idea Leicester was so far south and Stafford was so far north and what is Northampton? The accents are confusing, Leicester is slightly northern, Northampton sounds "Midlands". I don't know what's in the Midlands and what isn't either. Derby is the Midlands, right? Is Shrewsbury? Peterborough? Crewe? Worcester is but Cambridge isn't?
― Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2024 10:51 (one month ago) link
Derby is classic Midlands, Shrewsbury I never feel is nor Worcester, and i feel v borderline about Crewe - perhaps because it feels it’s one of those places that’s in no sort of zone at all. imv The Midlands is that cluster of industrial towns - Birmingham, Derby, Nottingham, Stoke, Leicester, Staffs. Peterborough’s that Lincolnshire and fenland country for me. Yeah Northampton feels the southmost tip of the Midlands to me.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:02 (one month ago) link
to me for me jesus.
I'm from Worcester, which is definitely in the Midlands.
* waves *
one thing that really confuses me is when people from the midlands say they are northern. it's not something I've seen on ilx in recent times but I do remember someone posting that they were from Wolverhampton and also they were northern and being like **wtf**?!?!? no
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:46 (one month ago) link
but the top bit of Cambridgeshire where it turns into Peterborough is definitely East Midlands.
I have a friend here from that bit and he def sounds like he's from the East Midlands. tbf Peterborough historically was in Northamptonshire they just picked it up and moved it into Cambridgeshire brick-by-brick in 1889
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:49 (one month ago) link
To get even more granular, the bit to the East of Peterborough, Fenland, is definitely East Anglia but is probably not East Midlands. Don't know if I'd call it "South" though. All I know is that it's officially the most miserable place in the UK - https://www.fenlandcitizen.co.uk/news/people-from-fenland-the-most-unhappy-in-the-uk-9045306/
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:02 (one month ago) link
another vanished kingdom: west anglia
― mark s, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:04 (one month ago) link
Lives on in this institution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_West_Anglia
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link
Staffs is more West Midlands
i know you're right but i mean kind of? South Staffs used to contain Walsall and maybe the entire Black Country, but it doesn't any more - and North Staffs is Stoke and whatever that is
Derby & Notts & Leicester all East Midlands, and there is a bit of a different 'style' of Midlandsiness between West and East
this is also "right" but Derby is pulled North by the Peaks maybe and then places like Chesterfield feel like the almost-North too
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:09 (one month ago) link
Nottingham and Leicester i'll give to the East Midlands absolutely, other bits of Notts i feel a little differently about, when i think about Derby i know in my heart it's the Midlands i just prefer to ignore it out of existence
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:11 (one month ago) link
not the entire Black Country - Dudley & Stourbridge were in Worcestershire
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:17 (one month ago) link
oh yeah good shout
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link
the North starts at Stoke as any fule kno
― fetter, Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:31 (one month ago) link
kay, hang on, need to check if this opinion is controversial... East Anglia is part of The South. Is that just me or is that a commonly accepted feeling?― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:16 bookmarkflaglink
― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:16 bookmarkflaglink
I don't think this should be controversial but has made me think - technically I am from south of the Watford Gap and I have lived in the south my entire adult life, but I still think of myself as a midlander and probably always will, I strongly believe the midlands is its own thing and not north or south. but some of East Anglia is further north than the west midlands - Norwich is further north than Birmingham for instance
on the other hand I call my mum "mom"
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 23:22 (one month ago) link
there is also "the west is its own thing" argument which I personally agree with - the south west/West Country doesn't have a whole lot to do with the rest of the south and probably has no reason to be grouped together with it really
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 23:33 (one month ago) link
West Country / London / Anglia / Central / Yorkshire / Border / Meridian / Granada / Tyne Tees - I don't make the rules
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 April 2024 00:04 (one month ago) link
tbf that sort of works
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 8 April 2024 00:36 (one month ago) link