scientology & celebrities

Bare Faced Messiah, yeah that is from some really old Scientology. I don't think auditing itself is that terrifying, I saw the questions. I mean, if you're a decent person I don't think you have anything to fear from a lie detector. I don't know, I've never been a Scientologist, I wouldn't marry one, seems like a ridiculous commitment and a lot of work. I'm used to religion being about Jesus or Buddha or something ancient. I look at their literature from time to time and expect to see "Jesus" or "God" and it's just difficult to wrap my head around.

I'm into Freemasonry which I heard was an influence? That is interesting....

i still don't get why it caught on so much though, like obv people get something from auditing, is it basically just counselling except the results are used to manipulate and control?

Maybe it's just that in auditing people are met with neutral/positive responses like "Good" or "Thank you," no matter WHAT shameful-to-them/long-hidden shit they say in response to repeated and increasingly personal questions, so that the auditees voice their worst traumas and most private thoughts and are not (immediately) harmed by having done so; in fact they are met with affectless acceptance. If they repeat those awful-to-them secrets enough times aloud, the material really does lose its emotional "charge" and they are able to gain a measure of detachment. (Of course auditors' disclosures are duly recorded for later blackmail purposes, it appears.)

Plus, who doesn't love to talk about themselves?

Scientology is a whole fucking religion based on compulsory, detailed confessions.

I mean, if you're a decent person I don't think you have anything to fear from a lie detector.

this is specious, at best, and despicable at worst.

Yeah for real

dying to read this maureen orth article, does anyone have a link to the full text?

What in the

http://gawker.com/5967150/tom-cruises-ex+girlfriend-and-other-former-scientologists-lash-out-in-never+before+heard-anti+scientology-rap

The brainchild behind this all-star effort is Titziano Lugli

That is the greatest name in human history.

Perhaps the most intriguing contribution comes from Nazanin Boniadi, the Iranian-born actress and model who, according to Vantiy Fair's Maureen Orth, was personally selected by Miscavige in a church-sanctioned search for Cruise's next girlfriend back in 2004. The relationship didn't last—Cruise wanted her incisor teeth filed down, and he eventually dumped her after she insulted Miscavige by asking him to repeat himself. Boniadi has never spoken out about being pimped out, North Korea-style, to a probably gay crazy actor by a cult leader (she declined to talk to Orth). So her participation in the "rap" is the first public proof from Boniadi herself of her break with the church. She raps: "This ain't no road to freedom / It's a blind alley, like Kirstie Alley / Travolta, and Cruise, but we ain't no fools."

omg miguel's girl

http://www.lamag.com/features/2012/12/18/the-tip-of-the-spear/print?src=longreads

uh wtf atlantic

http://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/scientology/archive/2013/01/david-miscavige-leads-scientology-to-milestone-year-/266958

SPONSOR CONTENT PROVIDED BY THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY = huge paid advertisement not very well disclosed?

omg miguel's girl

― before and after broscience (goole), Monday, December 10, 2012 3:50 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha Nazanin Boniadi =/ Nazanin Mandi

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haha Nazanin Boniadi =/ Nazanin Mandi

― some dude, Monday, January 14, 2013 9:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol whoops

anyone know anything about this Going Clear book? Is it any good? Got some amazon gift card credit and considering it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpU4WRpiskA

I just started reading it!! Got it on Kindle so my reputation isn't smeared by the Scientologist who sees me reading it on the train or sthg. Seems TOP NOTCH so far, am enjoying the psychological breakdown of l ron.

I mean Elrond

This book is incredibly fascinating

And appalling.

Dammit I already spent my amazon gift card. If it's really good i will splash out though. Seems like such an intriguing read.

I have Going Clear checked out right now but I've been too busy to get past the first couple of chapters. Very interesting so far.

i was gonna start a thread just for the book but i am afraid of their goon squads!

LRH was such an incredible character, you literally can't believe it, and then miscav1ge comes along and his story is if anything, even crazier

i was gonna skip this because i read that other newish scientology book last year but maybe i should check it out

read that as jewish

well that wouldn't make any sense at all

I know (now)

i was gonna start a thread just for the book but i am afraid of their goon squads!

We can talk about it here! I hope to read some more tonight.

I read inside scientology and the thing that struck me was how willing people can be to embrace authoritarianism..

And with good cause. Freedom is the ultimate illusion.

BANAKA

http://www.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/10/beatles-riot-justin-bieber-340_212.png

more like peedom is the ultimate poopoosion

a little disappointed that that post wasn't by peepoop patel.

the stuff about miscav1ge's childhood and induction into sciti is sooooooo fascinating

i'm just like 20 pgs in, and a slow reader in that it takes me a while to get through stuff because once it sinks in i am like whoa and have to stop reading to let it sink in all the way. right now i am enjoying thinking about the various ways that scientology intersected with all the drug-damaged freaky 70s people looking for community.

i'm also wondering how florian fricke became involved because that has always made me kinda sad, but i'm not sure about the exact connection or how zealous he was or w/e

a lot of people drifted in and out

does the book talk about fricke at all?

(just curious, will keep reading regardless)

sorry cant tell u, gotta read it

this is how it starts, isn't it

Read a bunch of this over lunch and between meetings today

fancy businessman over here

ok, I lied, I pretended to be checking email on my phone and read it during meetings. just try to pay attention during three straight hours of meetings, I dare you

ok discussion topic (i am on page 50 or something -- super duper slow reader over here, was busy this weekend)

l ron hubbard's son links the cosmology of s to black magic(k); parsonage sex cult

whaaaa?! is there more detail about this era? i certainly hope so, i haven't read much about crowley/occultists but i know i should because wtf @ parties where "women in diaphanous gowns...would dance around a pot of fire, surrounded by coffins topped with candles"

recommendations? (honestly i have not read this entire thread, so maybe it's discussed upthread, my apologies if so)