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jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

From my 1991 mixtape:

For better or for worse, this was the pinnacle of the Madchester sound in the U.S., reaching #1 on a blend of dance beats and shouts, busy cowbell, and the "hard rock" preset on my Casio. Me, I liked imitating James Atkins' accent while replacing the mush-mouthed "your purple prose gives you away" with "your Hans and Franz impression blows me away." Did I mention I was twelve?

jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, the <quote> tag automatically converts to italics. I thought all of you were adding italics to something that was already set off, which just seemed dumb to me.

jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I too used to hear/sing "Hans and Franz [just gives you away]" for that song. John, Jenny, and I sang this while waiting for the Damen bus early on in our life together, Jeff was there too, but not singing, obv.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. That was the SAME NIGHT as "homeboy," Kenan hitting his head on the curb, me stumbling around with my pants around my ankles, the photo of me looking surly, etc.

jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've already told Jenny, but look!!!

Edward Albee's Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Theatre : LaSalle Bank Theatre
Dates : March 27, 2007 - April 07, 2007

Direct from electrifying and critically acclaimed runs on Broadway and in London's West End, the new production of Edward Albee's masterpiece WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF?, starring original cast members KATHLEEN TURNER and BILL IRWIN, will play Chicago’s LaSalle Bank Theatre for a limited engagement. Edward Albee’s WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? is the story of George and Martha, two of the most famous roles ever written for the stage. Over the course of one wickedly hilarious evening, the cocktails come out and the gloves come off as this riveting duo takes their two young guests on the ride of their lives.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... link? ticket info?

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

[url]http://www.broadwayinchicago.com/shows_dyn.php?cmd=display_current&display_showtag=virginiawoolf07[/url]

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF:SLKNDGV:OINE

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh well. Here's a link for a preview http://stream.broadwaychannel.com/chicago/index.php?title=Whose_Afraid_of_Virginia_Woolf#

Kathleen Turner is looking healthy these days.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

not turning down seconds, that's for sure.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Computer crashed/died and we lost tons of irreplacable photos and documents and music that is replaceable but would require a lot of time/energy to replace. Has since been revived but it's basically naked.

Gas leak in the building (where we live) causes explosion scare that includes visions of 3rd degree burns, homelessness and destitution. Nothing exploded, but it could have since I was last there.

3 pm and still no lunch

;_;

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. It can only get better from here on out. As long as that explosion never came to pass....

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't blow up, manda. Plz.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Photos are replaceable, just buy another plane ticket.

Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you for your kind words of support. I will try not to explode.

I am not particularly bothered by this new format, except I liked the feature that would show me unread messages rather than that "500 messages are being hidden clickt to show" button.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the "Food of the 80's" thread makes me never want to eat again.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Amen to that. Plus I have a problem with the lack of x-post warning. And no automatic hyperlinking.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus I have a problem with the lack of x-post warning.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe they need a double post warning.

dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Today as I was thoroughly relishing my McGriddle I was thinking that one food of the '00s is the sweet-and-savory kind.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I just found a gnat floating in the glass of water I'm drinking. Will it end? Please let this 7-Day Spell of Hell end peacefully.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

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Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Comparing things I was actually eating in the 80's, many of which are listed on that thread, to what I eat now, i.e. tons of deep-dish pizza and thai and middle eastern food, I'd rather have now. Surely that's largely because I live in a better place to eat and have had more exposure to different foods. But I can't help thinking that some of it is because Americans have more options in general. Food is getting better!

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

You also have to take into consideration our age in the 80s. The fact that we were eating tons of ranch dip and Ruffles and fruit roll ups probably had to do with the fact that we were little kids. Now we are adults and eat adult food.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I never liked dip though.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I dip you dip we dip.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

well, at least it's easy to conjugate

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend lent me the Undeclared boxset the other day. I wasn't planning on renting it but I might as well watch it now, right?

Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not wasted time, no, it's just not as good as F&G.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, Amanda, my parents didn't eat "adult" food in the 80s either, unless you mean the same pretty bland Midwestern stuff! It was home-made and healthy but it was still mostly boring and "American". I think it's a done deal that foods & ingredients that used to be exoticare finding much wider acceptance & availbility. Whether this is a GOOD idea or not remains to be worked out, there are plenty of food-miles kinks & etc, but I think it's The Future.

Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Low expectations, check.

Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

L - Yeah, I agree that there is obvs a greater availability of ingredients (hummus in the superstore, for instance). But for the most part, the people I know who ate bland midwestern food in the 80s are still eating it. I don't know what food-miles kinks are, though.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Miles accumulated for kinky food preferences that can be redeemed for more food?

Sign me up!

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

food-miles = how far food has to travel to get to your table

Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, Amanda, my parents didn't eat "adult" food in the 80s either, unless you mean the same pretty bland Midwestern stuff!


Yeah, mine still don't, really. Lots of hamburger casserole-y stuff, "goulash" that only resembles goulash because it has a can of beans in it, spaghetti sauce that's more meat than sauce, a delectable/horrifying dish called "Chicken Dorito," etc. etc. My mom at least eats good Tex-Mex food now when she goes out, but by and large, they're both still cooking and eating the same stuff they fed us when we were kids.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. Ok.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I think food is getting better. I was reading somewhere (maybe in the 80's food thread?) about how cookbooks used to call for "1 clove of garlic" in a huge pot of spaghetti sauce, as one example of how food these days is more international and more interesting. Even so, my family in MI still is kind of meat and potatoes (boiled together is fine).

I grew up in the Midwest too for the most part, but my 7th Day Adventist upbringing was an odd source of variety in my diet. As a youngster I ate tabouli and baba ganoujhshch at church events because a lot of the people there were vegetarian. But their idea of "Mexican" was "taco salad," which was icebergy, olives, kidney beans, Doritos and FRENCH DRESSING.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

So basically that confirms my suspicion that we are talking about our own changing food preferences, not those of the gen-pub. Which means that even though there is hummus in the supermarket, a lot of people keep buying the Shake and Bake.

Maybe people are slowly waking up,but who knows. I am not demographer.

La Lechera, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Taco salad can die (see also every office party ever).

Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

But if there is hummus (and bulgar wheat, mesulin mix, and various organic stuff) in grocery stores, that means that the demand amongst the general public has increased otherwise you would only find this stuff in the hippy health food stores where the 7DAs shopped. Also, note the degree to which chain restaurants like Applebees and Ruby Tues. have "ethnicized" and "exoticized" (big scare quotes here) their offerings.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is starting to make me think about the suburban housewifey 7-layer dip I made for the movie the other night. Mmmmmmmmmmmm

dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

No one can fade that shit. I barely even had to wash the pan because it was scraped so clean.

dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe people are slowly waking up,but who knows. I am not demographer.


Nor am I, but there's a big urban/rural divide here, too, right?

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Uppity city dwellers would probably like to think so.

dan m, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

It's probably not as big as we, the uppity, would imagine -- I'm sure there's a Whole Foods by now in Omaha.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

heh. Yep.

kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Nor am I, but there's a big urban/rural divide here, too, right?

Good point. West Branch, MI's grocery stores certainly don't carry hummus. And remember Sarah's story about trying to buy hummus somewhere in rural Virginia? On the other hand, 20 years ago you wouldn't have found hummus in a Jewel in Chicago, would you? And you *can* easily find it in smaller cities like Salisbury, NC these days, so I would stick with "food is getting better/more varied" but add that it's happening regionally, and spreading slowly from city to rural.

Jesse, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

When my parents moved to Whitehall from NJ you couldn't get BAGELS within like 100 miles! I grew up on Lender's alone! And it was a long time before more than just the ONE "good" supermarket carried Boursin or Boar's Head deli meats or Bremner Wafres or any Parmesan besides the Kraft kind or any number of things. There is DEFINITELY an increase in availability, because I can remember how excited my mom used to be when she found that stuff in West MI...or would buy it once or twice a year on trips to Chicago or elsewhere.

Laurel, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link


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