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perhaps this was about a missing comma.

youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think it was!

I am sorry, if I have given you the wrong end of the stick.

I was just wondering about america and I wasn't listening the pinefox.

oh, yeah, I guess it was, kinda, about a comma.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Pinefox, why don't you just turn up an hour late again? Hey presto, Problem solved! I don't know about Derrida. Nice name. Nicer than Barthes, which I don't know how to pronounce, properly.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link

My dad says BarrrrrrrrrrTTTTez. And he's French. I am not sure that non-French humans are capable of doing this.

I think 'The Pleasure Of The Text' is my second-favouritest book ever, at this moment in my life.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 09:04 (nineteen years ago) link

eat my shorts.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
will a lover's discourse make me more or less confused?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

definitely more confused.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

wait, confused about what?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

"A Lovers Discourse" is one of PJ Harvey's favourite books apparently. I must check it out when I have time. I like this guy's writing and I'm not a theory buff. "Mythologies" is great. He goes through pop culture with a fine tooth comb in it. "The Death of The Author" is some A+ intellectual punk rock trolling. I love his writing on music too ("The Grain of the Voice").

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://theconversant.org/?p=7847


Alex Wermer-Colan: Introduction to The Renaissance of Roland Barthes
Youna Kwak: Avert Your Eyes: Roland Barthes and the Ethics of Intimacy
Jonathan Culler: Late Barthes
Lucy O’Meara: Some Remarks on Roland Barthes’s Lectures
Russell Stephens: On the Reception of Photography: Between Roland Barthes and Walter Benjamin
David Greetham: Retexting the Barthesian Text in Textual Studies
Margot Note: Site/Sight as Text, Barthes and Zero Degree Architecture
Claire Raymond: Roland Barthes, Ana Mendieta, and the Orphaned Image
Rosalind E. Krauss: The “Charm” of Roland Barthes

online proceedings from conference on late barthes

j., Sunday, 31 August 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...
two years pass...

Le français classique, seul instrument dont dispose actuellement la littérature, sauf à recourir à des procédés encore plus ésotériques, c’est avant tout le langage d’un groupe puissant, ou bien oisif, ou bien pratiquant un travail spécial, qu’on pourrait appeler travail directorial. De ce langage sont forcément exclues une infinité d’actions, et l’action elle-même...

« Responsabilité de la grammaire », 1947

I know I'm showing how basic I am but this is blowing me away. Barthes speaks of the « mythe de la clarté française dont le destin est si étroitement lié à l’histoire politique de la France ». Clarity of language is fascism, as he'll later say; here he stresses its aim in directive speech. I've been reading Vaugelas to understand the origins of clarity in French grammar, and Vaugelas is explicitly aiming to construct a language whose usage mirrors that of the court: to construct a language for the new nobles of France, the bourgeoise. But what then of language in ordinary life if it isn't clear? What kind of lifestyles do we lead then? I am just beginning to understand the possibilities.

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 27 August 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

Make sure you read Le degré zéro de l'écriture next, which greatly expands on those ideas.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

I did read the pertinent article there, but I find the writing in this article more striking.

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

but I should keep reading that text as well. I knew nothing of Barthes until last week.

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

i think you might also get something out of the late lectures, specifically in this case, Le neutre, where he explores how one might use language or concepts designed to thwart the binary paradigm, the apodictic and clear or dogmati.

Fizzles, Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

ok thanks!

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

Seconded, although my preference re: le neutre obviously goes to Blanchot (see: L'Entretien infini and Le pas au-delà in particular).

pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link


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