ah, utopias
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 May 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Utopias barely taste like beer. Not that great.
― Jeff, Friday, 24 May 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
ugh Gold Star. worst beer ever. do let me know if you find anything worth importing tho, my local beer shop wants to bring in some Israeli beers and i told them to stay far away from the gold star. xp
― Mordy , Friday, May 24, 2013 4:22 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean, Alexander is good enough to import in the sense that if you specifically want Israeli beer for the sake of Israeli beer, it's a hell of a lot better than Gold Star. I just thought it tasted like a lot of other middle-of-the-pack IPAs. I was hoping to get something with some sort of local character and I didn't think it had much. But there's certainly a market of people who will drink Israeli beers just because. Then again, I always thought it was funny that people order "thai beer" in thai restaurants that's just like ordinary lager.
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 May 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
what would be local character beer? brewed w/ olives maybe. or figs? speaking of, i got a bottle of pomegranate beer today - this one i think which now looking at the reviews i am not particularly enthusiastic about
― Mordy , Friday, 24 May 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
I guess I just like it when brewing in a region reaches a stage that goes beyond just imitating a style from somewhere else and into experimenting and creating. I think the Alexander brewery at least is just not quite at that stage, so I wouldn't really be that interested in drinking their beers anywhere other than here when I could just drink any number of similar brews by American brewers.
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 May 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
from the folks behind fangraphs:http://www.beergraphs.com/bg/5-welcome-to-beergraphs/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
are these guys for real
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i'm for whatever might burn beeradvocate to the ground but sometimes it's like, can moderately intelligent white guys just stop it
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
I picked up a bottle of this today:http://articles.philly.com/2013-06-02/news/39692982_1_philly-beer-week-next-door-brew-vitational
― Mordy , Friday, 7 June 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
also exciting news- manayunk brewpub has started canning their stuff. i've only so far seen monk from the yunk canned (which is too sweet imo) but if it leads them to can their biere de garde and some of their other good stuff it'll be great news.
― Mordy , Friday, 7 June 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
The Beergraphs site lost me with this: "...but let's not poo-poo the rest of the platter."
― nickn, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
cool map
http://www.newyorker.com/sandbox/business/beer.html
― Just Elevate... And Decide In The Air -- Above the Rim (dan m), Friday, 7 June 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
So a new gourmet store opened by me that happens to have an excellent single bottle beer selection. Tried my first sour tonight, Geuze Mariage Parfait (2009), and it's quite nice -- oak aged lambic ale with a lot of apple and citrus flavors but little sweetness.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's a nice mild qeuze.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha, I guess it is mild. The guy was trying to sell me on another sour first but then when I said I had ever had a sour he was like "Oh, well you should try this, it's more of a starter sour." I guess he was serious.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
soon theyre gonna be all you want to drink.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
next find some tilquin
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
he was initially trying to sell me something from The Bruery, but I can't figure out what it was now.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know how many sour beers they do but if it was sour in the rye go back and buy it
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
what else looks good on this listhttp://www.beermenus.com/places/9011-mr-vino-cucina
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
hmm they do have sour in the rye on the list so maybe that was it
Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA Founders Centennial IPALagunitas Sucks Holiday AleLagunitas Sucks Holiday AleLagunitas Sucks Holiday AleOmmegang Three PhilosophersRodenbach Grand CruSamuel Smith's Organic Chocolate Stout (most chocolate tasting beer i've ever drank)Troegs Troegenator (best doppelbock)Sixpoint 3Beans
― Mordy , Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
buy it and save it for when you get a little deeper into sours. it's fantastic imo.
other stuff i dig from that list:
3beanspeeper (check the bottling date)cpt. lawrence ipaespresso oak yetijeversucks (although most likely not fresh at this point)old crafty henbaby tree
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
oh and my favorite dfh ipa is 75 min. which is sort of a weird opinion but
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
i would totes drink non-fresh sucks right now.
other stuff i got this week in addition to the beerweek beverage:
Laughing Panda Green Tea (Two Brothers Brewing)SideKick Extra Pale Ale (Two Brothers Brewing) [can]Aloha Series: Wailua Ale Brewed with Passion Fruit (Kona Brewing)Dogfish Head Sixty-OneDogfish Head Festina Peche
― Mordy , Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
peeper is good however i find all the maine stuff pricey
― Mordy , Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah mbc pricing is appalling but most of their beers are worth trying once
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
how did you like the sixty one, mordy?
― Treeship, Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't drank it yet - just brought it home today
― Mordy , Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
People starting to go sort of bonkers over Solemn Oath here.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
prices at this store don't seem outrageous actually -- the singles that are normally sixpack beers seem to mostly be in the $2-$2.50 per bottle range, which is basically what my convenience store charges.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah the store pricing is fine, it's mbc that sucks
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
mordy i would dig a report on that green tea thing, i keep almost buying it. sadly, i think the 2 brothers sidekick is a terrible bore.
wrt sours, i stick with the idea that other than seeing how the surly pentagram cellars, my a#1 sour is still the cuvee des jacobins. heavy rumors about it's impending disappearance for 4-6 months followed by controlled distro allocation, so grab them while you can.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
yes, the cuvee rouge is also my alltime #1
― Mordy , Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
aw damn, thanks for the tip. i'll have to grab a couple next time i see them.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
I still don't really get sours at all; maybe if I don't think of them as beers I could appreciate them but that taste isn't something I want when I want to drink a beer.
― joygoat, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
i get that, i was baffled by lambics forever for the same reason. i just think that theres not much of anything more refreshing than a good sour. its def an acquired taste though, and the world is littered these days with some pretty mediocre sours for sure.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
i had a chance to sample the jacobins mother lambic (the stuff that they add flavors to to get either lambics or sours) and it was the craziest thing ever, just pure sour with almost no other flavor. i loved it, but they technically dont sell it, a bar in town doing a sour night got one 5 gallon keg for the brave by working some distro magic.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
Some days they are my favorite beers.
― Jeff, Saturday, 8 June 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
i had a chance to sample the jacobins mother lambic (the stuff that they add flavors to to get either lambics or sours) and it was the craziest thing ever, just pure sour with almost no other flavor. i loved it, but they technically dont sell it, a bar in town doing a sour night got one 5 gallon keg for the brave by working some distro magic.― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, June 8, 2013 9:12 AM (1 hour ago)
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, June 8, 2013 9:12 AM (1 hour ago)
Sounds like Bockor's gueuze to me?
Did a sour tasting night at my local with 2 friends on Thursday:
750ml 2009 Oude Gueuze Tilquin a l'Ancienne750ml 2007 Gueuze Lambic Cuvee Rene3 tulips Rodenbach Grand Cru3 tulips Bockor Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge3L of Russian River Supplication (we put about 1/3 dent into this, and put it back on the shelf for keeping)
Came out to $50pp. mostly because of the Supplication that will take another session (+) to work through.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 June 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
the two that have lost all their luster for me are the rodenbach grand cru and the monks one.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 June 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
although credit due to monks in philly for starting me down the sour path several years ago with that beer. i swear it used to be much more sour back in the day.
currently drinking 32 american adjunct lagers in a blind tasting, bracket style.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
I did that with 16 double IPAs for a friends birthday a couple years ago, it got real ugly by the end.
― joygoat, Saturday, 8 June 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
ha, I guess it is mild. The guy was trying to sell me on another sour first but then when I said I had ever had a sour he was like "Oh, well you should try this, it's more of a starter sour." I guess he was serious.― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, June 7, 2013 8:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, June 7, 2013 8:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i know i've repped it in this thread before, but seriously try peekskill simple sour if you get a chance - i've had it at habitat in greenpoint and i think it's been on at sunswick in astoria, and probably a few other places in the city as well. an absolute stunner, and very approachable if you're new to sours.
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 8 June 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
3L of Russian River Supplication (we put about 1/3 dent into this, and put it back on the shelf for keeping)
3L say wuuuuuut
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 8 June 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
and the winner is....schlitz 1960s formula
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 June 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
3L say wuuuuuut― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, June 8, 2013 4:21 PM (1 hour ago)
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, June 8, 2013 4:21 PM (1 hour ago)
Yeah mang, I normally don't post my pix online but here ya go:https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292509_531445400245892_269078269_n.jpg
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
hah nice
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
so I didn't make it all the way to the new beer/gourmet store tonight, but I did decide to pick up a couple singles at my corner store, and they had lagunitas sucks brown shugga substitute, as well as lagunitas lil sumpin sumpin, so I decided to try each. Drinking the sucks first. I like it a lot. I'm bad at describing tasting notes and I always feel psychologically suggestible, for example the first thing I thought was "I'm picking up some brown sugar." But it has an unusual sort of "profile" or "narrative" or whatever you call the way the flavors develop start to finish or front to back. It starts off very hoppy but then gets a bit sweeter and less bitter and it tastes a little honeyish but not cloyingly so.
I like hops but I like them in balance, I'm not a hop-maniac. I finished off some Sierra Nevada Torpedo the other night and while it's a good beer, I found it a little too heavy and bitter for my taste. This is a nicer balance.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Sunday, 9 June 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago) link