The Returned (French supernatural drama on Channel 4)

I was on a bus in rural China once. The coach in front of us (probably had about 60 or 70 people in) span off the road, flipped over on its side and crashed into a mountain. The driver of the bus i was on honked his horn, shouted what i assume was abuse out of the window and drove on without even slowing down. That's the kind of attitude you need.

Just wanted to say that the last episode has put this series up as being about the best thing on the box right now. I'm not into madly speculating on all of the goings on, though; I'm happy to just let the mystery unfold.

I couldn't help it. I made a nice meal, disassociated for a bit, and then shotgunned the rest of the series in one night. I have banned myself from posting anymore on this thread.

Could you find it with subtitles or was your French good enough?

i found it with subtitles

There don't seem to be any old buildings in the town, everything's relatively new, which is very weird for a town in the middle of France.

It's plausible that the original town is at the bottom of the reservoir and they built the new one at the same time as the dam. Hence the steeple etc. Dunno if this will turn into a plot point though.

Simon died a violent death under oblique circumstances too.

We only have Thomas' word (and not even that, actually) that it was suicide - who knows if he's telling the truth or just trying to turn Adele away from Simon.

Any tips on where? Mainly cos 4OD is such a dire user experience. xpost.

We only have Thomas' word (and not even that, actually) that it was suicide - who knows if he's telling the truth or just trying to turn Adele away from Simon.

i had assumed it was prob a suicide to begin with.

first google result here

Yeah I've found the whole thing subtitled, only downloaded the fourth ep though because I want to watch it as it unfolds on TV.

The subtitles are fine fwiw but whenever there's an accent or other special character then the names are garbled, which makes it slightly more difficult to follow, although you can usually hear the names anyway,

We only have Thomas' word (and not even that, actually) that it was suicide

The drawing by Simon's daughter also possibly corroborates the suicide theory (presumably no-one had explicitly told her that her dad had shot himself in the head)

That's what I meant by "not even that" - Thomas just says it wasn't an accident and then we see the daughter's drawing.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

We need to know more about these flesh-eating cats too btw.

Camille against Lena for breaking her promise and inadvertently causing the bus crash

So on the bus, did Camille actually feel Frederic's hands on her when he was in bed with Lena? Or is it a psychic thing? Doesn't Lena try to escape from hospital when Camille is trying it on with Frederic in the pub? Does she appear to feel something, or does she just wake up? Or neither of those things? Sorry for being thick, I'm going to have watch these again!

i don't believe the returns will be entirely because of lucy, not at all. it would be boring and also why would they play their hand so quickly?

I sometimes wish programmes like this would at least play some of their hand a little bit quickly, so that I know whether their idea of a decent resolution matches mine, and I know whether I should keep watching or not. As someone else mentioned above (could even have been you), I'm a lot warier nowadays of programmes that promise a huge payoff to a massively creepy buildup, because nine times out of ten they don't deliver. I'd like there to be some answers to something soon.

"It was all a dream"

"i used to read Les Inrockuptibles"

Can't remember the last time I was so taken by the cinematography of a TV series - the way the whole thing is shot is so clinical and eerie. The show would have been much less interesting had it been shot in a more traditional way. Some of the scenes in the final episodes are breath-taking.

http://newgifs.com/images/full/les-revenants-fabrice-gobert.gif

btw i feel like i have always loved Frédéric Pierrot. the fact that he was in one of the very first scenes guaranteed i would stick with this.

I know what you mean, Trish, but the resolution is only part of the enjoyment for me - if the resolution turns out to be somewhat unsatisfying that will make me think it's a less good series in retrospect but it will have left me with 7.5 hours of enjoyable (sometimes thrilling) telly, which is cool in and of itself.

Tim I feel you are hinting towards some broader, more existential point with that post.

How dare you suggest anything of the kind?

Now I'm frightened of whatever's under the water AND whatever's going to happen in the big blackout when the power station floods, thanks guys

Maybe the mysterious scar on Lena's back is somehow connected with the mysterious dam crack. Or maybe it isn't. I don't know

The cast of the U.S. remake (man, I *hate* this ubiquitous kind of promo shot):

http://www.sorozatguru.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/the-resurrection-492x354.jpg

I watched all of this last night. Won't spoil but imo it runs out of steam a bit as it goes. Maybe that's cos of watching a few in a row.

xp kid not creepy enough us remake who gives a shit goddamn

yeah was gonna say - now way that kid will bring the eerie creepines of Victor to the table - but whatever really

feel bad for basically hi-fiving a kid for looking weird.

also for spelling 'hi' like that.

I wouldnt say he looks weird though - give him some modern clothes and a new haircut and he'd blend in anywhere.

this suggest the american remake is based on a book

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_%28U.S._TV_series%29

(that's Resurrection aka The Returned aka Forever)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Returned-Jason-Mott/dp/1848452144/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_2

but the plot is decidedly different. french tv series based on french film (based on...?)

Nobody?

So, they're always hungry, but they've lost their sense of taste and aren't affected at all by what they consume? Camille necked all that vodka but didn't seem to get drunk, and didn't Mr Costa's wife say something in the diner like 'the food's not great but at least it fills you up'?

haha yeah.. makes me think of Pierre's odd comment about the beds in the Helping Hand. "they're not good beds, but you'll sleep very well in them".

This show is so fucking good.

Thinking about the animals in the lake...what if they died first time round when the village was flooded, then reanimated "12 hours ago" but found themselves underwater and drowned? This theory relies on revenants, or animal revenants at least, being able to die a second time.

Otherwise we've got some evil thing out there that we haven't seen yet.

There was that wolf strung up in Stefan / Toni's place in ep 1 which came back to life, and which he then managed to kill, right?

Yeah. Mrs Costa's advice to Julie suggests the opposite though. Maybe animals can die but humans can't, because Thomas Aquinas something something or because the writers just decided it that way?

The other big mystery at the moment is why is Serge uncharactistically tending to Lena?

Must have something to do with the scars.

When he was putting the nettles on her I thought you could see him struggling with his killer instinct

Victor to helping hand man - 'You didn't try' (to save him). And he didn't.

i thought that Serge identifies Lena with his mum to some extent. Maybe she had similar wounds?

So have the returned literally risen from their graves? Has anyone thought to check the graves to see if their bodies are still there or what?

When he was putting the nettles on her I thought you could see him struggling with his killer instinct

oh bigtime, he obv gets off on injury or something and was practically slavering. to me it's just the idea that he is trying to be different this time, difficult and all as it is.

And I want to know what those animals were running from

Not reading the thread past a certain point, because I haven't seen E5 yet, but I binged last night on the first 4 and this show is amazing amazing amazing.

I guess Victor could have convinced the animals to run into the lake. Dunno why though.