sweetmakes sense"tweeshit" sounds like a hostile nicknamei was bullied as a childi think some of the stuff you say is funnyand loled when you compared me to malcolm gladwell once
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
i also reminded youthat you are the poem
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
if you can't laugh at tweeshitwhat can you laugh at
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
sometimes i wonder what it would be like to be a website
if you don't write this poem, tao lin will. he's probably reading this thread right now.
― Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
there is a ninety-five percent chancehe is reading this thread right nowbecausehe reads all of his pressand shitand tweeted to me once when i mentioned himto clarify something
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
tao lin is reading every threadright now
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
guys
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
hey guys
hey TAO LIN can i borrow some money i want to go to NYU
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
i like how in taipei"paul" lives in williamsburgoff the graham street stopbecause my friend lives thereand i am there all the timeand all of the public spaceswherein the novelthey did drugswere places i have been
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
Treeship are you "drugs?"
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i used to live theretoo,treeship
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i am going to move somewhere like that, probably not super close to the Lbecause that shitis expensive
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
waterface:i don't do drugsanymore, really
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
no Treeshipwhat I meant wasyou seem to be all of the placesTao Lin was doing drugsso i was thinking"Maybe Treeship is drugs."
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
maybe we can summon him to appear like the chrisagis brothers.
we must make an offering to him. we'll need insense, a plate of research chemicals, and an Apple product. with our collective dissatisfaction over 21st century urban life combined, I think we can do it.
taooooooooooootaooooooooooootaooooooooooooooooooooooooo
― Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
waterface,shitwaithmno, i remembered:i am not drugsi am a human being, who is male,and born in the state of new yorkin 1989, according to my passportand drugsdon't have passports
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
spectrum:tweet a link to this threadto tao linand he will probably make an accountand show up. i don't want to do that though,because he will act in his characteristic, schticky mannerand i will look insaneto other ilxorsfor arguing that "this guy" is a great novelist,which is something i believe anywayand won't back down fromon the strength of taipei andrichard yates
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
are either of those novels as good as 'a game of thrones'?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
hahahaha
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
these fake tao lin poemsall end wrongmy asshole itches
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
i have never read game of thronesbecause i don't read fantasy, usually,or haven't since i took an entire seminaron the lord of the ringsin high schoolso i can't comment on that.however,regardless,i am going to sayyesxp
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
fwiw I like this excerpt:http://www.vice.com/read/an-excerpt-from-tao-lins-taipei
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
no it's just that i started taking photos of the floor, looking at the floor through my phone and zooming in on the carpet, which was kinda filthy and hadn't been vacuumed since last year probably, and you could still see where the stain where the fish tank had broken had spilled smelly algae fishwater everywhere and it didn't dry for a week and the whole place stan. that was the day when my brother went to the hospital again, but i was thinking about tao lin and how i never even read anything he wrote except for maybe a couple poems on a blog that was linked off a message board that i post on sometimes when i'm bored at work. it was weird to think about how i have been on this board so long, since i was in NYU actually, like tao lin actually, even though i left new york after college and still have friends there but don't think i want to live there again but then i started a lazy approximation of his writing style and posted it on the board and refreshed the page a few times waiting to see what people thought, if it was funny or what
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
it's funny but not "funny"
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
it has a breathless quality
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
remove bookmarkfrom thisthread
― Mordy , Friday, 12 July 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
"Never trust a writer who whiles away their time reading bout themselves, while throwing one off". Some wise fucker once said that to me.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
tao lin has a tattoo that says"fuck america," allegedly.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
http://www.taolin.info/2009/07/i-desecrated-my-body-to-promote-my.html
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
the comments on that vice excerpt tho
Andrew Goldspink Smith · Keele UniversityLooks set to be an important book.Reply · Like · Follow Post · May 29 at 2:03pm
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
"i desecrated my body" wow edgy tattoo man but "whatever"
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
i just think its weird for him not to mention that james joyce had the exact same tattoo
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
ok this guy
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
i just paged through hsi tumblr and lol forever
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
ok, i'm done talking about tao lin on the internet till his next book. later.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
Goodbye Waterface
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
“I won,” said Chelsea’s dad, and went to give Chelsea a high-five, but missed, as they were standing too close.“My fault,” he said. “That was my fault.”“Oh,” Chelsea said.And he stepped back a little and tried again, but Chelsea, distracted now by something—maybe the plant in the far corner, standing and waiting like a person in a dream; or maybe the green shoe or some other thing that was out there and longing, to be looked at, and taken—wasn’t ready, and their hands, his then hers, passed through the air in a kind of wave, a little goodbye.
“My fault,” he said. “That was my fault.”
“Oh,” Chelsea said.
And he stepped back a little and tried again, but Chelsea, distracted now by something—maybe the plant in the far corner, standing and waiting like a person in a dream; or maybe the green shoe or some other thing that was out there and longing, to be looked at, and taken—wasn’t ready, and their hands, his then hers, passed through the air in a kind of wave, a little goodbye.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
Goodbye TreeShipsThough I never knew you at all You had the grace to hold yourself While those around you crawled They crawled out of the woodwork And they whispered into your brain They set you on the treadmill And they made you change your name
And it seems to me you lived your life Like a candle in the wind Never knowing who to cling to When the rain set in And I would have liked to have known you But I was just a kid Your candle burned out long before Your legend ever did
Loneliness was tough The toughest role you ever played Hollywood created a superstar And pain was the price you paid Even when you died Oh the press still hounded you All the papers had to say Was that Treeships was found in the nude
Goodbye Tweeships Though I never knew you at all You had the grace to hold yourself While those around you crawled
Goodye Treesjits From the young man in the 22nd row Who sees you as something more than sexual More than just Tao Lin's publicist
And I would have liked to have known you But I was just a kid Your candle burned out long before Your legend ever didYou Stupid Fucks
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
much love to the young man in the 22nd row who sees me as something more than sexual.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
this thread got me curious about the alt lit writer who went to my college and wrote an alt lit book which included a bunch of imagined sex scenes with friends of mine and he super-excitedly met alt lit superstar tao lin at a muumuu house reading and apparently he's pretty popular in the alt lit world now and did some thing with kitty pryde idk
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 12 July 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
i don't think becoming popular in this (very small) world involves much more than the right kind of self-promotion and i do think in 30 years lit scholars will revere it almost like the fucking beats if only because lit scholars need to cling to some evolution of lit (esp. young tortured male lit) that goes further than boring grad school novels/poetry and this is movement with the best branding
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 12 July 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
which is to say waaah waaah waaah i will never be as popular as these people
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 12 July 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sad to have a go at someone who genuinely gets excited about about a writer you don't like, Waterface.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
In that manner. I meant to say.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
none of the fake tao lin poetry on this thread reads v much like tao lin poetry
― i better not get any (thomp), Friday, 12 July 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
i agree with that.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sad to have a go at someone who genuinely gets excited about about a writer you don't like, Waterface.― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, July 12, 2013 11:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Treeship's a big boy and he handeld himself fine.
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
Part of the problem for me is that outside of my ilx 'life' I go to a lot of readings and tryto support new writing in my city as much as I can and
so many people no but so many people but seriously like all of them
try to 'do' the banal, the awkward, the cute, in their stories and novels -not like this fake 'tao lin poem'that doesn't even resemble a tao lin poem but very close to taipei
and it is boring crushingly boring and one watches them building a profilerising from being 'english students' through the stages until they become 'published novellists'
and the thing is i know this sounds inherently smug
but FFS they could read a book occasionallyyou know bit of joseph conrad henry james i dunno i'm not prescriptive but it's very obvious they don't really like words booksnovels stories poems stuff like that
they're basically reading-orientated kind of operating in an interzone betweenstand up and fictionwhen it's not funny they have the 'it's fiction' excuse when it's not well written they have the 'it's comedy' excuse
none of this is made explicit it's all implied in the general atmosphere
and you go out for a cigarette halfway throughglaring at the ground because it's that boring
― cardamon, Friday, 12 July 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link
by reading-orientated i meanthem doing performances all the timei don't mean they orient themselves around reading
obvs. But
it's like why the fuck would you portionoff a time and a place for a literary readinga poetry reading a reading from a novel
why would you do that, right and all turn up in their retro clothes and all talking about how they're all writers
but then absolutely refuse to be anything otherthan smug and ironic and undercut anything literary anything you know like oh i don't know and references to some band they like or some band they don't like
ffs
― cardamon, Friday, 12 July 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link