The Returned (French supernatural drama on Channel 4)

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Neighbor lady was technically a suicide, but it was obvious that Victor was pulling her strings, right?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

some of the theories are really getting convoluted now imo.

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

Yep, just like with Toni xp

trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

im gonna need to stay off this thread, this is like lost. maybe serge is the horse????

max, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

otm

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

Just caught the last two episodes of this. Not disappointed on the whole but it was strange how they ditched the feel of the rest of the series (small stories that looked to be about personal vendettas) and turned it into something else, something kind of zombieish. The "deportation" scene was gripping though, the strength of the characterisation that was built up really paid off imo.

Also loved the soundtrack - I listened to it a bunch earlier in the year even before I watched the show. The Goblinesque theme that played when Julie/Laure/Victor got stuck on the dam was very effective.

I actually lolled when he popped it in his mouth :)

― click here to start exploding (ledge), Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:06 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me too!

if you tolerate this, your children will be sexting (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

this is coming to the sundance channel in america next week. fyi to any americans.

max, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

Oh cool, I might watch it again.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

Starts tonight!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

America you should watch the fuck out of this show.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

I haven't read anything saying it would be, but I have this horrible fear that it might be dubbed. Because America.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

its subtitled. exact same version that ran on channel 4

max, Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

american remake in the works

balls, Friday, 1 November 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link

America you should watch the fuck out of this show.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:38 (Yesterday)

this.

mark e, Friday, 1 November 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

american remake in the works

Are you talking about Resurrection on ABC? It's similar in one respect, but totally different in every other.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 November 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link

lol i just heard it was based on the returned but apparently it's a different the returned

balls, Friday, 1 November 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

there is an american remake of this in the works, tho

max, Friday, 1 November 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

Can't wait for second season 2 even though I know that I will inevitably be disappointed (didn't much like the direction which the finale suggested)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 1 November 2013 08:23 (ten years ago) link

So much of this show is tied up in its particular sense of place, I can't imagine even a great American remake having quite the same peculiar eerieness.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 November 2013 09:45 (ten years ago) link

I loved this show but found the end of season 1 just pushed things into True Blood levels of ludicrousness. Concerned the next one will jump the shark completely. That first episode is so great though - really understated, more about people's reactions to their returned loved ones than the supernatural properties at work.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Friday, 1 November 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

No way did this get anywhere near True Blood idiocy, even at the end.

I actually stayed with TB for something like 4-5 seasons. I relished the campiness and the "oh boy, they've really gone crazy this time" before giving up. But the Returned felt so refreshing at first. Like those zombie movies where you're only peripherally aware of the undead threat and the real conflict is among the normal people having to overcome them, The Returned was brilliant and subtle. Just hoping they rein it in a bit, that's all.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Friday, 1 November 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link

I didn't like the turn it took in the last episode at all, but I don't see how they can go back to the small domestic stories that were the best thing about season 1.

snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Friday, 1 November 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

Can we get spoilery on this thread? Tbh I thought they could have milked the domestic drama a good deal more and maybe throw in some more flashback stuff

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

Spoiler seal was broken a long time ago.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I think there should be a separate thread if American viewers don't want to know what happened.

Matt DC, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

This show is so good it deserves a thread.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Oops, did that accidentally, clearly there was a thread and I found it.

I love this show, although I haven't watched the last episode yet so maybe they ruined everything.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

last episode takes the show in a new direction - IMHO
Curious as to when season 2 will appear

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

first episode was by far the best, as with a lot of these three-part gritty dramas.

An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

(wasn't it 8 or 10 episodes?)

koogs, Monday, 13 January 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link

god, you're not wrong - it was 8 episodes. i distinctly remember it being shorter than that, but i was also watchign southcliffe at the same time.

An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah these kind of shows can never really live up to their initial pormises - the first couple of episodes struck this very elegiac note of haunted loss but then the show turned into something slightly different

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

it's inevitable, but i was impressed that they stretched out the initial phase (when nobody had quite realized what was going on) for as many episodes as they did. the first four or five are just perfect.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 13 January 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link

i thought this was the most consistent show of its type since twin peaks tbh

max, Monday, 13 January 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

^agreed. just watched the last episode last night, loved the final shot. so i guess the setup for the season 2 is 'the horde' all living in the old previously-drowned village, with the living stuck on the hill?

crucial previously unasked question: was the zombie-ish zombie in the bathroom drinking water from the toilet? or...?

some interesting theories upthread, i wondered about the twins switching places when they were initially revealed but then forgot about it, and assumed the remark camille made in the last episode about 'even though you know i'm not her' referred to her being a different, undead version of herself. i don't know what the switch would even affect if it were true, except for another reason to for camille to be jealous of her sister's life (which seems to have faded anyway).

for some reason all the unanswered questions & mysteries don't bother me in this show, since they seem to be done for emotional/visceral effect rather than to keep you hooked on the plot.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 16 January 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link

This may have been posted upthread, but here's the US version, er...it's not a remake exactly, but the premise is the same. The French series is based on a film, and the US series is based on a book and not the French series or film. Anyway, an excuse to watch Kurtwood Smith is fine with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MFrquHzlWA

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

this on netflix instant now

so so so good. so many questions tho, wish i'd been taking notes, might be one of the only shows i'll end up rewatching almost immediately.

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i thought it was weird that victor kept referencing his dead parents, but there's no mention of his dad in the flashbacks (the mother refers to "her" room/bed, not "ours") and victor never talks about seeing his brother again, even though he must have also been shot. also not clear at all why pierre and the other guy were in that house murdering everyone.

why are simon and camille and victor and that toilet-drinking guy all rotting but apparently not serge or mrs costa or lucy?

just1n3, Saturday, 1 March 2014 06:17 (ten years ago) link

starting this and hoping it's better than TOTL. had high hopes for this sundance stuff!

currently being driven crazy about this guy cause he looks like 99% the same as some non-french actor i can't remember

http://fr.web.img2.acsta.net/r_640_600/b_1_d6d6d6/medias/nmedia/18/92/60/65/20371186.jpg

i might just be thinking of david costabile but i swear there's a closer match

robert wuhl?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 2 March 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link

john malkovich?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 2 March 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link

He looks like a warped version of Tom Hanks.

ailsa, Sunday, 2 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link

nearly 3 in and i'm disappointed, this is like half a good show and half a CW drama that isn't interesting

i watched the movie shortly after it came out on DVD, i don't remember much from it except that it was (also) disappointing and possibly a bit bigoted in its precious immigration allegory (if that's what it was going for -- could never really know). apparently this is the second time in a row i've hyped myself up for a well-tempered-and-possibly-a-little-eerie story abt dead people coming back and attempting to reintegrate only to be met with this hodge-podge of mystery shit and CREEPY CHILDREN ugh. i blame nearly everything i've ever read about either the movie or show which described it as the former

but seriously even with mogwai there are so many shots that feel like they came out of secret life of the american teenager

The high point of the season is in the middle imo, so it will get better for you before it gets worse.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 07:46 (ten years ago) link

tbh if you don't like it after three episodes, I don't see how the rest of it would change your mind

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's what i'm thinking too but i'll probably watch the rest anyway

the parts that i think are really good are mostly just the three actual cases of returned people. esp the twins. this is why i think this idea keeps getting rehashed (a novel! a tv adaptation of the novel! an english adaptation of the tv adaptation of the novel!) even though the original film wasn't a big deal and wasn't any good -- the simple idea of dead people coming back and trying to reintegrate into their families and into society offers a ton of possibilities for stories and character dynamics that haven't really been explored. it's almost easy to make this shit interesting. but every time they do it they just have to add all this silly pointless shit that doesn't belong and suddenly i'm having LOST flashbacks

the simple idea of dead people coming back and trying to reintegrate into their families and into society offers a ton of possibilities for stories and character dynamics that haven't really been explored.

agreed. and i hate how the show boils down into classy horror tropes, or even exposes (?) how the returned returned to life. i was more interested in the domestic complexities of, what happens when your dead sister comes back to life?

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 08:23 (ten years ago) link

kid's pee coming out of closet
now it's blood

^ this incredible shot really deserved its 90-second slow pan


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