a director doesn't get "blocked" the way a novelist does.
Serious question: How would you know?
Fosse clearly modeled much if not all of his filmography on Fellini, and not just cuz his first film was a musical remake of Nights of Cabiria. Pauline Kael really hated his post-Cabaret stuff.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
most pains of life are pretty standard tapioca
i need to see this, i've loved all the fosse i've seen (cabaret and lenny iirc)
― goole, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
also the interpersonal relations in Fellini are far more unconventional than Fosse's regurgitation of suffering, philandering, heartbroken troupers.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
xps True. Kael also hated a bunch of Fellini.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
art = beyond tapioca
zzzzz
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
Man with power thinks all women want to sleep with him. How unconventional.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
this is very tangential but i have never understood "self indulgent" as a criticism of art.
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
feel like you guys shd be a lil more thorough w yr critical scoresheets maybe make a google doc or something
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
I've never liked tapioca.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
tapioca is dope as hell f the h8rs
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
http://www.simplyrecipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/11/tapioca-pudding-b.jpg
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
so good
I wasn't like this when I made All About Steve
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link
tapioca always reminds me of orbitz
― balls, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link
I miss Orbitz.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
seems like a director also has a writing process like storyboarding or w/e that could get blocked but once youre filming you kinda just have to do it, which is prob the secret to overcoming writers block too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
'get r done' as fellini used to say
― balls, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
Love this. Possibly my fave fosse.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pOhhqkm.jpg
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
fergie was in that?
― balls, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:30 (ten years ago) link
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA1NTA5MTIwMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDU1NDAyMQ@@._V1_SY317_CR1,0,214,317_.jpg
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:30 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/0kjQ2bH.jpg
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
this holiday season be italian
― slam dunk, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
The dad from Alf is funny in this.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link
alf is funny he eats cats
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
I love 8 1/2 so I should def watch this asap
― ryan, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-2rRyXGyhc
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
― slam dunk
― balls, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Recently watched this for the first time in a decade and was startled at how much Scheider resembles what Ryan Gosling could look like in another 10-15 years.
― chris_coolidge, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
This movie is all time. Also, i just finished Fosse, the biography by Sam Wasson, would recommend to any Fosse fans out there.
― Popture, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
The stairway song w/his daughter...
― Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link
can anyone tell me if Star 80 worth seeing?
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link
it is
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:23 (ten years ago) link
It is. Not a particularly good movie, excellent mess (Eric Roberts nails the creep).
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:30 (ten years ago) link
curious about it but man it seems so morbid and gross
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link
Well, the true story was morbid and gross...
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
i love eric roberts.
also its maybe my fave polish movie poster
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
The originally planned star of All That Jazz was someone with a greater resemblance to Fosse: Richard Dreyfuss.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link
I thought they offered it to Paul Newman
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Thursday, 16 January 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link
If you want to see them in their golden age, do a double feature of Star 80 for Eric Roberts and Body Heat for Mickey Rourke.
― tbd (Eazy), Thursday, 16 January 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link
I love this movie.
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 16 January 2014 05:52 (ten years ago) link
this movie rules
― flopson, Thursday, 16 January 2014 07:14 (ten years ago) link
Why all the reverence for wacky Fellini films?
I haven't seen this, unfortunately Cabaret is about the only Fosse screened on UK TV.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 January 2014 10:17 (ten years ago) link
In my case, because most of them are better than All That Jazz.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2014 12:34 (ten years ago) link
Very appropriately titled YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz-tWu9VpWg
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 20 January 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Sorry not sorry double post.
thread should have minimum 5 posts w/ that youtube imo
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 20 January 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
TS: this holiday season be italian VS this honkey grandma be trippin
― Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 24 January 2014 04:23 (ten years ago) link
Take off with us.
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Friday, 24 January 2014 05:28 (ten years ago) link
Not sure KJB would appreciate you turning him into your new Dennis Perrin either.
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link
I haven't even quoted his "You can't block assholes on that board"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETgexi3aWI
― Maresn3st, Monday, 7 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
Almost posted this in the “movies where you disagree w/ the screenwriters on who the 'good guys' are” thread but thought it didn’t exactly fit there…
I saw this for the first time recently & liked it a lot but thought of that thread bc for a while I was hung up by wondering if the film thought Gideon was actually talented or not. Like he’s obviously presented as v successful and respected, but the actual creative work that we are shown in the film (editing the fake Lenny Bruce movie and the porno dance scene he choreographs) were both howlingly silly and bad imo, to the point where I wondered if Fosse was being parodic or laceratingly self-critical.
In the end i had to admit that the movie seems to think he is talented, but idk I feel like I almost like it better thinking about it the other way, where he’s a has-been coasting on fame despite having completely squandered his gifts
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 18 July 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
Screened tonight in Chicago:
The ticket line went out the door past multiple neighboring buildings, and the conversations I overheard in line were all “are we all here for All That Jazz???” just glorious collective bewilderment that YES we ARE all here for All That Jazz!!!!!— James Allen (@jallencomposer) July 19, 2022
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link
imo the erotic airlines routine is supposed to be (and is) good
the lenny bruce doc within all that jazz is clearly one of those artistic pursuits that’s totally its plot and purpose
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link
also i think regardless of how good either project is, the movie views them both as acts of self-sabotage
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
lost its plot and purpose*
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link
tbh this is the usual failing of Films About Artists, so I don't get hung up on it.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
yeah thats why those scenes still worked for me (& why whether or not i think the works are "good" is irrelevant), they both served plot & character functions beyond just "lookit what a genius this person is", which is the default reflex of most Great Artist bios. i like Fosse fine but i appreciated not having that be a requirement for enjoying it as character study.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
Back when I was working in a Turkish Nightclub...
My sister had an idea she wanted to add "All that jazz" to one of the shows, and got somebody to bring out this movie's soundtrack.
When it got here, guess what?
Yep. It's not in this movie. It's "Chicago"
Never mind, we did mine it for other tracks, and "It's showtime folks" did get used as a blip intro...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
Blank Check recently did a series unpacking all of Fosse's films.
Lin Manuel-Miranda guests on the ATJ one, some great moments are drawn from Fosse's first draft of the script that Sam Rockwell sent to Miranda, w/ no name changes and some juicy details.
https://soundcloud.com/griffin-and-david-present/all-that-jazz-with-lin-manuel-miranda
― MaresNest, Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link