I think it can be gross if you drink it like a beer - cold, fast, even with a meal, let alone the wrong meal. The best comparison I've thought of is that it's a bit like drinking a cigar (I've never had a cigar): you have to make it last. It's definitely an intense beer and/or an acquired taste, imo.
I dunno, I drank it very slowly. Maybe it was a bit too cold when I started it but it certainly warmed up in the glass. To me it tasted out of the realm of beer entirely, more like booze, and not very good booze, like a dessert wine gone bad or something. Very sweet, syrupy, the whiskey flavors seemed generic and lacked the nuances of an actually good whiskey, overpowering, too much going on. It was like a better version of some of the bad Dogfish offerings I've had. Gave me a very weird buzz fwiw, almost druggy.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link
going by most of your post i see in this thread our taste in beer is miles apart most of the time.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
xpst Do you like other bourbon barrel aged stouts better? Or is the whole style not your thing.
― Jeff, Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
Nah I think I just don't like the style.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
I think it can be gross if you drink it like a beer - cold, fast, even with a meal, let alone the wrong meal. The best comparison I've thought of is that it's a bit like drinking a cigar (I've never had a cigar): you have to make it last. It's definitely an intense beer and/or an acquired taste, imo.I dunno, I drank it very slowly. Maybe it was a bit too cold when I started it but it certainly warmed up in the glass. To me it tasted out of the realm of beer entirely, more like booze, and not very good booze, like a dessert wine gone bad or something. Very sweet, syrupy, the whiskey flavors seemed generic and lacked the nuances of an actually good whiskey, overpowering, too much going on. It was like a better version of some of the bad Dogfish offerings I've had. Gave me a very weird buzz fwiw, almost druggy.
i've never had BCBS before, and i enjoy various bourbon barrel-aged stouts, but i've numerous beers in that style that totally match this description.
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:55 (ten years ago) link
that palo santo marron beer from dogfish completely fit this vibe
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
yeah i mean i don't find bcbs to be overly sweet, i'd call it more viscous than syrupy, but i can see how someone would make those criticisms. i don't really get the out of the realm of beer comment though.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link
i don't like a lot of the barrel aged stuff (too sweet, esp with the high APV) but i think the BCBS is pretty exceptional
― Mordy , Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:00 (ten years ago) link
xp palo santo isn't a bourbon barrel beer, but it is barrel-aged in palo santo wood, and is similar in taste to other dark, rich, boozy imperial stouts. dogfish called it a "brown ale," yea right
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link
this is exactly how i felt about a Kentucky BBS (not positive on the brewery?) i had in a bar recently, especially in comparison to the Goose Island BCBS, which has a lot more going on imo.
xp
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link
yeah actually it did have aspects that reminded me of palo santo marron (which I also dont' really like) now that I think of it. I'm being a little harsh, it wasn't completely terrible, I just enjoyed it a lot less than I expected after all the hype. Maybe I'll wait a while and try it again. I have some Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout on deck, which I love.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link
i think the brooklyn black chocolate stout is one of the more successful strong stouts out there
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
barrel-aged in palo santo wood
!!! really wanna try this, I like that stuff
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
viscous is definitely the word. i would agree that the closest i come to being drunk in my 30s is when i have one of these.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
Yeah maybe it was also because I drank the thing watching true detective alone in the dark, but I felt pretty fucked up for a dad afterwards.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
Just realized that Mikkeler vs Evil Twin is a rip-off of the Adidas/Puma schism.
― dan m, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link
'pretty fucked up for a dad' is such a magnificent typo
― circa1916, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
hurting needs to confirm it was in fact a typo
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
yea i'm a dad and i didn't read it as a typo!!
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
betting on no typo here
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
no typo!
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah i was going to say, i'm a dad and know that feeling
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
like when your toddler suddenly cries out in the middle of the night and you stumble over to her room and your hand completely misses the doorknob
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link
lol
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link
more drunk dad stories please
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
I have thankfully few! Having to change a poop diaper drunk (or hungover first thing in the morning) really cures a lot of the urge to get drunk!
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link
I'm drinking most of the time while I'm parenting.
― Jeff, Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link
you guys are crazy for not digging bourbon barrel-aged stuff btw! i'm not sure imperial stouts are the best thing to put in a bourbon barrel tho - scotch ales, barleywines, belgian strong darks, etc are a much better fit. those styles are all pretty sweet to begin with, the bourbon taste adds a bit of sweetness but the other smokey/leathery flavors usually stand out way more ime
it's not like i want that much sugar in my beer all the time, but it's a nice treat in the winter or as dessert or w/e
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/03/30/magazine/mag30-Glaser-beer-sidebar.html
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
Shiner is by far the best-looking bottle on that page
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
yea. ommegang has always had a nice sense of design too. most of the others are terrible, though i like sixpoint and lefthand
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
dogfish is just awful though
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
yeah milt otm about that one, but I think he's also onto something about how standing out and not looking like a beer beer is more important than good design
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
the uinta one is almost nice but the colors make me hurt
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
I think this is one of the nicest beer bottles (and a delicious beer too)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n_7gOdboq2w/T25UX_jVGgI/AAAAAAAACvI/i-evjfm2z3s/s640/uintababablacklager.JPG
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link
that's a good looking bottle
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
the uinta ipa one i don't really like. it kind reminds me of the vermont brewery wolavers:http://wa.worldclassbeer.com/wp-content/beer_spy/images/prodimages/Wolavers/lOatmealStoutLogo.jpgwhich is kind of like, i don't, generic "good design" but just kind of blank and doesn't leave much of an impression
― marcos, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
ha i take back the "good design" comment
do not like that farmer guy
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link
it's definitely a little generic. I'm not a designer but to me something about it is weak design-wise. Maybe it's that there are too many words. "VERMONT'S OWN WOLAVER'S FINE ORGANIC ALES BETTER BEER BETTER WORLD OATMEAL STOUT RICH AND CREAMY STOUT" kind of seems like a lot to be saying when you line it all up
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link
like all those phrases are all-caps, they all attract the eye. my eye bounces all around the label with all the different text all over the place, yet it looks like it's not supposed to be busy. It's "clean style" that's not actually clean.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link
feeling these new throwback-ish cans from amnesia
https://untappd.s3.amazonaws.com/photo/2014_02_09/ac484d68987a5c99c18e669d85f54ed2_640x640.jpg
also like the super-basic look of occidental cans
http://spiritsofmtseymour.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/o/c/occidental_kolsch.jpg
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link
woah, apologies for HUEG pics
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
I never liked the sixpoint cans as much as I like their beer. It could be worse. But they look so "I'm a bro, but I'm a CITY bro" and their beers always struck me as a little more interesting than that.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link
also I don't get that wild west theme park logo, wtf is that doing in brooklyn
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
Best beer with worst logo/label:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SLzVdygFDLg/Uw13BePqj9I/AAAAAAAAfPc/G1zcmU3HdXw/s1600/pliny-the-younger_large.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
heady topper can is pretty dope imo
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link
lol @ pliny. i think statistical analysis would probably show a correlation btwn shitty graphic design and delicious beer
crux probably has my favorite bottle look. cool die-cut shapes, decent background patterns
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
"I'm a bro, but I'm a CITY bro"
lol perfect
― dan m, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link