On that note, though, verso is selling all their books online for half off this week...
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link
uh holy shit
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
not their lefebvre : (
― j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
huh? http://www.versobooks.com/books/1062-introduction-to-modernity
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
http://www.versobooks.com/books/264-critique-of-everyday-life-volume-onehttp://www.versobooks.com/books/274-critique-of-everyday-life-volume-two
the newest one on his author page isn't out yet
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
huh, that is a change from the day or two ago when i was looking at 'critique'
― j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
well maybe you were on this page: http://www.versobooks.com/books/1623-the-critique-of-everyday-life
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
oh, that's why—i want volume 3
― j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
note the "may 2014"
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
this is insane though. whatever they were hoping to accomplish with this, it's gonna probably work and get me to sign up for their store, which i wouldn't have done otherwise.
if i had more money now i'd drop a lot on this
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
xp or, when it is issued, a ~900 page CRITIQUE OF ALL YALL MOTHERFUCKERS W/ BLACK AND WHITE TEXT-ONLY COVER ART
― j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
for a hardcover! http://www.versobooks.com/books/437-fanaticism
― markers, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
wanna order...three books from verso, what are your favourites everyone? give me a wide spread.
― online hardman, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
minima moralia
signs mistaken for wonders
and, i dunno, one i'd like to read, say rancière, hatred of democracy
― j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link
i didnt think id want anything but after looking at the website Élisabeth Roudinesco's book on Lacan looks good!
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
zizek - sublime object of ideologyzizek - living in the end timesvarious artists - aesthetics and politicshal foster - the art-architecture complexanabel hernández - narcoland
― Mordy , Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Contingency, Hegemony, Universality remains a favorite. and anything by Ernesto Laclau in general. wish i knew more, but Verso tends to cover things outside my competence. which is why i should read more of their stuff.
i can't find any info on "signs mistaken for wonders"--what is it? good title.
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link
nevermind! it's moretti.
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
shit it's not in stock.
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Jameson's Late Marxism is really good, though i read it probably a decade ago.
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
minima moralia out of stock :(
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
you should order it used anyway, to get the bad-motherfucker black cover instead of the newer grosser one
o wait i see the new sexxxier series has a kewl black hardcover now
― j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link
i'll wait for a library copy.
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link
went hardcore suck-up and bought a bunch of stuff by ppl in my department.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
know Brouwer's math pretty well, had no idea about that element of his philosophy! saw some very out-there heyting quotes the other day that inspired me to want to learn more. sort of painfully naive claims about mathematics being that which is 'immediately evident' and thus not needing a philosophy. maybe brouwer's intuitionism really went that deep too.
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
for me it's just striking how deep into some kinda pro-christian (anti-world) schopenhauerian dutch nationalist melange it is, apparently w/o much buildup. that level of philosophical uh embeddedness is not exactly surprising in mathematicians/scientists of that age or earlier, i just wonder at its specific sources (since it is evidently more or less a repetition of dogmas common to the schopenhauerian tradition).
schopenhauer has a weird philosophy of mathematics that stems somehow from his ways of claiming to correct/simplify kant (esp. in the direction of affirming unusual doctrines about perception which i think from an orthodox kantian perspective just sound uncritical?).
― j., Wednesday, 9 April 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link
Brouwer's sources include Fichte and Schelling and Goethe ; he's drawing on German idealism
― Euler, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link
well yuh, i meant something a bit more recent
― j., Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:01 (ten years ago) link
can't post it now but there are p close textual similarities b/w Fichte et al & Brouwer's text, kinda striking
― Euler, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
talk was excellent - thought there were some pretty clear connections between his mathematical work and his solipsism, or at least his idealism
― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 05:44 (ten years ago) link
this discussion sent me on a bit of reading. lots of texts seem to suggest schopenhauer was directly key, and more directly his teacher Gerrit Mannoury. want to read more about him and the signific circle now, but not sure how much if anything is available in english.
also didn't read that it was originally brouwer that coined the term (apparently) 'metamathematics'! i had always thought that it originated more as a _concession_ to those who claimed certain stuff wasn't 'real math' than as a point of pride and distinction...
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
re. Brouwer's influences, this is a secondary lit article I'd recommend, in this volume
― Euler, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
started reading more on mannoury and wow that guy is interesting. anyone know more about him and the significs group? dude was talking about speech acts 30 years before austin. the connection with Adriaan de Groot and cognitive psych is also really interesting.
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Friday, 11 April 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link
cool search feature
http://www.versobooks.com/search?q=zizek&scope=Authors
― markers, Saturday, 12 April 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
was browsing amazon and came across a new zizek, "absolute recoil: towards a new foundation of dialectical materialism." On verso in October.
― ryan, Saturday, 12 April 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/156933/ernesto-laclau-passes-away-at-78
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Sunday, 13 April 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link
i bought hegemony & socialist strategy when i was in college, but i don't know how much of it i read, if any
zizek's also putting out:
http://www.versobooks.com/books/1688-comradely-greetingshttp://www.polity.co.uk/book.asp?ref=9780745663746http://www.amazon.com/Event-Slavoj-Zizek/dp/1612194117/
― markers, Sunday, 13 April 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
the last of those is already available here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Event-Philosophy-Transit-Slavoj-Zizek/dp/1846146267/
― markers, Sunday, 13 April 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
I've heard the 'Event' book is quite good, a rare recent example of Zizek not on autopilot.
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 13 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
that's actually a little surprising. i did a reading group on violence in 2009 and i don't remember how much of it was original stuff but i doubt it was all of it
― markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
ended up buying nothing from the verso sale
― markers, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
i've been meaning to reread that
― j., Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link
which? violence?
― markers, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link
i didn't buy it from the sale, but the website alerted me to the existence of s. critchley's (and co-author's) "The Hamlet Doctrine," so i impulsively got it on my kindle. it was pretty fucking stupid though. a nice tour through some famous takes on an intrinsically fascinating topic (benjamin, freud, lacan, nietzsche, joyce) but it's really indulgent and doesn't come to anything new. a book that focused on Hamlet as a topic for philosophy would be pretty cool though, and this book approaches that but doesn't really come close to what I wanted.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
which is a shame, because i thought "faith of the faithless" was pretty good and worth engaging with. getting tired of so many stupid cash-ins from these guys (uh, philosophers). i swear half of the new books i read come across as a collection of semi-edited notes.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link
it probably depends on who you're reading. ray brassier has only put out one book and is working on a new one but it's been seven years.
― markers, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
well brassier, from the little ive read of him and some interviews, certainly strikes me as more serious than many. glad he's taking his time.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
if i ever get to write another one (unlikely) i'd like to take 10 years or so on it. people who publish a lot of frivolous garbage should be frowned upon.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link