Yeah I love the wit, would definitely buy it on its own.
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link
i about the 12-pack of that sierra nevada mix. torpedo i've had many times but as for the others i liked all of them except for the wit, really. session was great. the black ipa was awesome
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
should say "i *bought"
i don't know what it is with wheat beers for me, most of them are terrible, especially american wheats
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
that SN mix is a great deal, even if i wasn't crazy about the wit.
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
IPA tasting this Saturday:
Knee Deep - Hopoholic 4IPARip Current - Caught In A Rip 3IPAPliny The Elder - 2IPAAlpine - Nelson IPABlind Pig - IPA
Sorry headache guys...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
I had a glass of the Bruery Sour in the Rye today at Whole Foods and it was pretty good. And at $7 for a 10 oz pour cheaper than the bottle price. I also overheard they're getting Parabola in bottles tomorrow or Friday. Also heard someone say a couple of Costcos in the LA area had Parabola for $11 each.
― nickn, Thursday, 10 April 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
nick, buy all the parabolas please!
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 April 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link
Sour in the Rye is my favorite Bruery beer out of those that I've tried.
Happened to find a six of Zombie Dust this evening and it was 10% off day w/ college ID at my local store, made the standard slightly too high 3F price tag a little easier to swallow.
― dan m, Thursday, 10 April 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link
Sour in the Rye is great. I'd buy it every time I see a bottle, but it's just about $5 too much for me to do that.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 01:18 (ten years ago) link
Pliny The Elder - 2IPA
Lucky, lucky man. I've only had a small portion of this at a bottle share, but completely deserving of the hype imho.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 April 2014 02:03 (ten years ago) link
Went nuts on the build your own at the beer store - here the list:
Victory dirtwolfOmmegang glimmerglass spring saisonStillwater Artisanal Folklore StoutStillwater Artisanal why can't IBUStillwater Artisanal stateside saisonBrau Brothers Paradox black ipaBrau Brothers ALTernative imperial aleSpike and Jerome's Barley RyneMikkeller/Brew Dog I Hardcore youMikkeller Black HoleMikkeller soriacha ace single hopMikkeller Hop Burn
― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 April 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
Worked a ridiculous deal on the mikkeller singles because they've been hanging out for a long while getting not bought, so they might be a little past due but whatever, $2 a bottle, which means all 4 cost me less than they usually would per single. Plus the coffee stout is basically a guaranteed win.
― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 April 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link
Btw, the ommegang glimmerglass is the shit, saison with sweet orange peel and pink peppercorns. It's amazing and you should probably just go buy some right now. I'm not even much of an ommegang fan most of the time but wow.
― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 April 2014 03:11 (ten years ago) link
I just have to say once again that I'm so glad Surly is back in town, just so fucking solid.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 April 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link
sour in the rye is one of my favorite beers! at least one of my favorite commonly-available beers. i was gifted two (!) bottles of it recently, along with two (!) bottles of 2011 bourbonic plague (!!), a bottle of propolis granum (really great herbal sour), a bottle of the upright anniversary saison (made with apricot and aged in wine and gin barrels) and probably something else i'm forgetting
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
Pipeworks made a saison with pink peppercorns that was pretty damn good, now they've got one out with green peppercorns plus cucumber and celery seed. Haven't had it yet but I sent CAD a bottle in trade.
― dan m, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link
oh wow, that sounds delicious.
― Mordy , Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link
It's so easy to take all the commonly available good beer for granted but man, is there a ton of commonly available good beer! Golden age.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link
Especially around here. Not just local brews, but the distribution we receive is amazing.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link
peppercorn saisons are great, the elysian oddland is a nicely affordable option around here. also sasquatch is now making a szechuan peppercorn saison, which i need to try asap
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
I also overheard they're getting Parabola in bottles tomorrow or Friday. Also heard someone say a couple of Costcos in the LA area had Parabola for $11 each.
― nickn, Wednesday, April 9, 2014
Score! Bought two (their max/customer) at $16/ea. May stop by after work to see if any's left.
― nickn, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link
Local any-day-now seasonal excitement is Bell's Black Note. I'm intrigued by the deconstructed night at Binny's:
http://www.binnys.com/blog/lincoln-park-tasting-room-presents-bells-black-note-deconstructed/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Black note is going to be a tough one to get. Harder than KBS, for sure.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
It may be. But 180 cases shipped to Chicago (apparently) doesn't sound so bad.
Just last year my friend found a few on a shelf. At a Binny's!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I didn't even get a sniff of one last year. I've only had it once, way back at FOBAB in 2011. It was one of the last samples I tried that night and I could barely walk/talk/breath/comprehend what was going on. I think I liked it.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
How many bottles in a case? 24? So 4320 bottles for the entire Chicagoland area?
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
So I went to a beer tasting thing at a friend's house a couple weeks ago, where a bunch of people brought a couple of bombers to share. Not to complain too much, because I definitely had some pretty great stuff, but at least half the beers that people brought were imperial stouts, and it just sort of became tiresome after a while. I don't dislike that style, but I hate how beer-geek culture holds up big, boozy stouts (and to a lesser extent IPAs) as, like, the pinnacle of beer. For instance, 9 of the top 20 beers on BeerAdvocate right now are imperial stouts. And for a tasting, I'd rather try lots of different styles than one rich beer after another. (Btw, I brought Une Annee Sanguinaire and Pipeworks Nagami Equinox, both of them Belgian-style ales brewed with citrus but otherwise fairly distinct.)
― jaymc, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
Now I'm trying to remember what I've offered you at my place. I know we've done some heavy stouts, Backyard Rye comes to mind. Next time you're just getting Shocktop.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Now that my old man has had a sniff of KBS I'm gonna sic him on the Black Note :D
― dan m, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
Xpost We also had a bourbon county coffee. All wasted on JAYMC.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link
When I get home I'm pulling all the stats on beers I've given to jaymc.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
jaymcbeers.xls?
― dan m, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
I imagine Imperial Stouts, particularly those that are barrel aged, are so well regarded because they do seem like special occasion beers. You can sit on them for a couple of years, or serve them almost in lieu of dessert. They take more effort to brew, they aren't always widely distributed, they're often seasonal and/or limited. And they often taste very good! But yeah, I can see them getting tiresome. Just as double IPAs can kill your mouth, these heavy stouts get to be a bit like drinking brownies and eating cigars. A little bit (can) go a long way. They're awesome beers to share.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah i think a lot of what you said is true about any big/boozy beer tho? i wonder why so many have praised imperial stouts as opposed to quads/strong belgians or barrel-aged barleywines &c
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link
Head start maybe? Barleywine seems to be surging.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:23 (ten years ago) link
i could see that. imperial stouts are pretty accessible to anyone who has tried guiness
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link
OK, I believe I can think of three times when I've shared with beers with jaymc that consisted of more than your normal fridge beers. Most of these were provided by me, but a few were during a bottle share so others may have brought them. They are:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/13767870155_b5de578416_c.jpg
Decent mix, right?
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 April 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
xps it does seem like sessionable beers are now a thing in the beer geekosphere, probably as a reaction to the stranglehold higher abv stuff has on the scene
berliner weisses ftw!
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
That's a pretty good mix. Although I think I could do like one smoked beer a year though, not my thing.
Back to what PG says: full flavor with sessionable ABV is a definite thing. I remember on 4th of July last year I was dying in triple degree heat and for lunch the server recommended Citra Session by Green Flash. That was a big reveal to me where the market was going, when you can get a 5% to taste like the 7-8%ers... lots of dry-hopping I imagine.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 April 2014 00:30 (ten years ago) link
Thought this list was interesting for a pre-"new era" take on USA craft brewing:
Michael Jackson's top 10 American beers (2002)
Tupper's Hop Pocket Pils (Old Dominion, Ashburn, Virginia).St. Victorious (Victory, Downingtown, Pennsylvania).Black Chocolate Stout (Brooklyn, New York).Dortmunder Gold (Great Lakes, Cleveland, Ohio).Expedition Stout (Kalamazoo, Michigan).Belgian-style Red, Cherry Beer (New Glarus, Wisconsin).La Folie (New Belgium, Fort Collins, Colorado).Anchor Steam Beer (San Francisco, California).Sierra Nevada Pale Ale (Chico, California).BridgePort India Pale Ale (Portland, Oregon).
Be sure to read the full article (it's not long, it's a nifty little time-warp):http://beerhunter.com/documents/19133-001726.html
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 April 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link
Interesting how San Diego's rise to prominence is basically <10 years in the making.
do beerfolk respect stone still?
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 April 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
xp Also this is pretty great+timeless, "The Jackson FIVE" for Playboy:
http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-001510.html
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 April 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
Stone makes some of the better IPAs in the USA imho.
Enjoy By, Stone IPA and Ruination are all fantastic, they put out quite a bit of experimental stuff that seems to miss the mark, but their flagship beers are all recommended.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 April 2014 01:13 (ten years ago) link
Had no idea la folie was so old!
― ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Friday, 11 April 2014 01:15 (ten years ago) link
BTW, remember my trip to Wisconsin, where I bought beer? Well, I did. In my haul was a six-pack of one of the one-off foil-topped New Glarus brews, the spiced ale. It was really gross. I liked the big fruity beers I got, though, though they were barely beer. Can imagine serving them in the summer.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 April 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link
ty. Stone IPA is pretty ubiquitous here and I enjoy it. Love the ballast point stuff I've had on tap as well.
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 April 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link
Not to complain too much, because I definitely had some pretty great stuff, but at least half the beers that people brought were imperial stouts, and it just sort of became tiresome after a while. I don't dislike that style, but I hate how beer-geek culture holds up big, boozy stouts (and to a lesser extent IPAs) as, like, the pinnacle of beer.
i've thought about this a lot and i definitely agree with you to an extent. essentially higher abv allows for flavor development--that's how ppl learn to identify hop profiles, barrel aging, the effect of coffee and other flavorings, etc. contrarians can talk all they want about the subtleties present in some random belgian wit or english pale ale but it's totally logical why bigger beers float to the top of ratings--they're going to have more flavor variation.
the more present issue is that imperial stouts and dipas aren't particularly hard to make so every brewery has one. if sours and wilds were easy produce we'd be complaining about fatigue for those, probably.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 April 2014 01:23 (ten years ago) link
On the other hand, the barrel aging seem to be really taxing on breweries. Heard the Founders guys say how they basically take one week off to bottle KBS, get as much of it out as they can, they immediately have to move on to their other commitments. Then there's the matter of simply having enough space to store the beers as they age, and all the chances for contamination (looking at you, Central Waters) ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 April 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link