rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

xp to hurting -- i get it that as a 7 year old you might not know that speedy gonzales = mexican. but the character is obviously coded as such and at some point speedy is going to enter kids' consciousness as a mexican stereotype. it wasn't 7 year old white kids calling hispanic people "speedy gonzales" when i was growing up, it was white teenagers clearly aware of speedy's mexican tropes who grew up watching looney tunes.

right though white teenagers are gonna be shitty no matter what, as a Jew I got a ton of the Eric Cartman stuff growing up. though had South Park never existed I'm sure it just would've been something else.

there's always something

Kinda on-topic - I walked into my son's preschool classroom recently and did a doubletake at one of their art projects.

http://i.imgur.com/DNqoLtc.jpg

ladybugs?

Ladybugs.

http://i.imgur.com/ZeScVFZ.jpg

Ladybugs

idgi

me neither

on first glance they look a little like pickaninnies

https://www.google.com/search?q=pickaninny&client=firefox-a&hs=hGy&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&imgil=VZiXq68eRFwocM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcRjB3x4fYBGQXHqgToKKFoDx_XsCGGCq1yZqjWoMZWS4_5UfWsPgg%253B200%253B160%253Bt9nUouhiNsG82M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%25252Fwiki%25252FPickaninny&source=iu&usg=__ZsiM5OF1Crdwx9QnLA5_mMOjFdQ%3D&sa=X&ei=6mByU9ipJqqd8gHfp4CIAQ&ved=0CDwQ9QEwAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=VZiXq68eRFwocM%253A%3Bt9nUouhiNsG82M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252Fthumb%252F5%252F55%252FPicaninny_Freeze.jpg%252F200px-Picaninny_Freeze.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FPickaninny%3B200%3B160

That's what my first glance told me.

Especially when you first flip the lights on in an empty classroom.

Still don't see it. I see ladybugs.

I just see bugs, I don't see gender.

I guess maybe pplains is the REAL racist here.

...or we are

i figured out that they were ladybugs, but at first i saw BLACK HEARTS which was obv. awesome of kids and teacher both

http://i.imgur.com/yMhheyr.gif

I saw what DJP described, dark faces with red bandannas.

And I am completely racist, thought we'd been over that.

Racist toward LADYBUGS.

Has this been brought up yet? http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/05/11/310708342/recall-that-ice-cream-truck-song-we-have-unpleasant-news-for-youThis

yea, not sure if it was this thread or the other race thread floating about site new answers

That song title

o_O

I just saw lady bugs. I thought the deal was "LADY" bugs named Henry...like no man bugs, ever? I was actually at the kitchen sink this evening, washing dishes trying to figure out what the deal was and so had to return here and there it is....

That song title

o_O

― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, May 13, 2014 4:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it's a little beyond o_O

I won't belabor the point (too late), but this is what I thought I saw at first.

http://i.imgur.com/FkBePHKl.gif

i don't understand why that NPR article is circulating like grumpy cat in 2014 when there was literally a top 10 song with that melody on the billboard singles chart 8 years ago

It's almost like a hip-hop song isn't sufficient enough grounds to talk about something, but it is when the predominately white NPR gives it some shine, hmmmmm

lol I thought about "Chain Hang Low" too

social justice clickbait didn't really exist in 2006 the way it does in 2014 tho

cf justin bieber having more twitter followers than kurt cobain ever did

is theodore r johnson 'predominantly' really white whiney? how many eighths are we talking?

That song title

o_O

― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, May 13, 2014 4:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it's a little beyond o_O

I listened to it yesterday and feel kind of terrible that it's been stuck in my head off and on today

is theodore r johnson 'predominantly' really white whiney? how many eighths are we talking?

― balls, Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:01 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's why i called out the source, not the author

And not even the source because, NPR is totally great for running it!

I'm mainly confused why everyone is picking up on it and reblogging it when there was a legitimate cultural artifact that people were making the exact same points about eight years ago

8 years ago is a longtime on the internet whieny

because no one was that emotionally invested in it then and people have a pop culture memory of less than eight years?

probably the people invested in it then and npr listeners aren't that overlapping, either

it's almost like hip-hop hasn't really been relevant in the larger culture for nearly a decade now

or that the means thru which ppl share stuff on the internet are different than they were eight years ago

I mean, Gawker existed in 2006, where was their reblog of this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/17/arts/music/17play.html

THIS WHOLE SYSTEM IS OUT OF ORDER

iirc they were busy posting updates of which celebrities people had seen on the streets of nyc that day

it's almost like that times article deals w/ the issue as an aside in a brief blurb while the npr thing uses it to demonstrate how if you scratch beneath the surface of even the most anodyne thing in america you will find virulent racism lurking in its history

where was whiney when spin magazine was posting aids denialist literature

c'mon man you can't tell me you didn't know about that

hey how come ppl are linking to that thing from 2006 when lil' mont used it in 1997. seems kinda suspect someone would link to the predominantly white ny times and ignore an icon most americans are aware of like lil' mont.

I should really remove my bookmark from this thread and yet

your time might be better spent sleeping

DJP, if you remove your bookmark from this thread, how are you going to know if something's racist or not?

Whiney on a "Why wasn't anybody calling for Donald Sterling's ouster 15 years ago?" tip

http://www.multivu.com/mnr/64790-post-foods-fruity-cocoa-pebbles-competition-wwe-john-cena-nba-kyrie-irving

"team fruity"

I have been cracking up at those ads since I first encountered them