yeah tbh ASOIAF is actually better-written than most contemporary genre stuff. says a lot about contemporary genre stuff.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
How would you rewrite those passages to improve the prose
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
more peppers!
― balls, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
Gregor couldn't get enough of those fiery Dornish peepers
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
I think he generally describes what's happening reasonably efficiently and evocatively, don't want a great deal more from heavily plot-driven stuff TBH.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
He thrust his free hand into Oberyn’s unprotected face, pushing steel fingers into his eyes. “Then I raped her.” Clegane slammed his fist into the Dornishman’s mouth, making splinters of his teeth.
he popped his head open and brains went everywhere and a dwarf vomits. i raped yr sister lol.
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
That extract makes me very glad I'm watching and not reading.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
I think he generally describes what's happening reasonably efficiently
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is the craziest thought someones probably ever had like even if you love the books you cant believe this
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link
not that i think they need to be efficient
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
me rapist I crush you head dwarf barf
how's that for efficient
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
"I killed her, screaming "welp"..."
― nashwan, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link
hahahahaha i didnt realize he actually went full on GRRM feast-description in that passage
― max, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link
its like the adrenaline high point of the entire fucking series and he cant help but describe a fucking feast
― max, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link
not just that but i love how imagining tyrion's vomit he can't help himself from thinking 'ooh, and there'd be bits of bacon in it! and applecakes! and fiery dornish peppers!', it's like he's writing that sentence specifically to appeal to a dog.
― balls, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
It's unintentional self-parody (if gyac wasn't playing subtle editor there).
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
alas
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
lagoon I'd read yr rewrite of GOT books if you are so inclined fyi
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
brevity is source of wit and really just easier for everyone
cool ill get to work on that shd be done in like 40 years
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
Not very efficient. : \
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
yet he'll still beat martin to the end
― Clay, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link
there is no limit to GRRM's ability to just start thinking about food in the middle of writing something
― random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:28 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― max, Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
im dying with laughter over here
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 00:49 (ten years ago) link
it's so true
"and with cries of anguish she screamed as her brother took sword blow after sword blow, crimson rivers of blood flowing down the palace steps, while onlookers feasted on glistening slabs of suckling pig freshly roasted with young crabapples, brandywine filling their ornate goblets to wash the juices that sheened their hungry mouths...."
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 02:47 (ten years ago) link
Good lord how did you people slog through that
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link
well that one's parody unless my eyes were deeply glazed over by the last leg
― Clay, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link
of chicken, its juices trickling down walder frey's chin as he smiled at rob stark kneeling, rivers of blood pouring from his wounds and pooling about the suckling pig that had been swept off a nearby table by a dying north bannerman, apple still firmly within its teeth.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 03:27 (ten years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/q1GkkoM.png
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
the kinda comical say whaaaat look tyrion had on his face at the end (like he'd never seen a pizza that large or something)
Not caught up on the thread yet but need to highlight this. Lmao
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 13:31 (ten years ago) link
those bastard name sound like mls team names to me.― ryan, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:02 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark
― ryan, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:02 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark
Hahaha nailed it
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link
I've heard that his other books are written in a more restrained manner. Quite a few fans of things like Fevre Dream, Sand Kings and Armageddon Rag apparently don't like the Ice And Fire series. I bought Fevre Dream a few months before Game Of Thrones tv show started and I still haven't read it but I'm still looking forward to it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 13:58 (ten years ago) link
its like the adrenaline high point of the entire fucking series and he cant help but describe a fucking feast― max, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:28 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinknot just that but i love how imagining tyrion's vomit he can't help himself from thinking 'ooh, and there'd be bits of bacon in it! and applecakes! and fiery dornish peppers!', it's like he's writing that sentence specifically to appeal to a dog.― balls, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:40 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark
― max, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:28 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:40 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark
Probably for the spoiler thread but yeah like 50% of the books are descriptions of food and 49.9% descriptions of clothing
Did you guys know that there were 77 dishes served at Joffrey's wedding and he describes every single fucking one of them
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:01 (ten years ago) link
I wanna know who the teenage nihilist is they have on the writing crew
Arya's "nothing" speech last ep and the Beetle Speech this ep
Every time they need some kind of pontification on the nihlism of existence they ring up this dude
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:06 (ten years ago) link
i loved arya's nothing speech. the arya-hound stuff is far and away the best subplot this season, and aside from charles dance and michael mcelhatton theyre the best regulars
― max, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
does that include littlefinger's ladder monologue from last season too
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link
Yeah my love for teenage nihilism is clear as I've demonstrated on the True Detective thread
But the tone of those monologues always feels very distinct from the rest of the show, maybe I just have an acute nihilism detector
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:15 (ten years ago) link
I am feeling the Sansa & Littlefinger subplot as well - Arya and the Hound is an amazing double-act but it's mostly just been them walking around and occasionally killing some people.
Really hope all these characters come together properly at the Vale though. Brienne & Podrick need to meet Arya & The Hound, it can only lead to deeply suspicious wagon-circling lols.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link
FWIW I found the flayed ironborn more gross than Oberyn
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Also re: infection talk upthread, don't forget that the Hound is walking pusbag right now
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link
omg the beetle speech was so not nihilistic
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
Seemed that way to me
You wanna know why this guy is killing all these beetles
But then a horse kicks him in the head
Life is pointless like that sometimes
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link
Or sometimes the world sends something along to kill murderous idiots
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
i feel like it was somewhat about the limits of our ability to understand, like tyrion is very smart but he still cant figure it out the bug crushers deal, tho he can perceive that there is a reason, but mostly i think it was about his own humanity and sensitivity rubbing up against the uncaring calcified culture all around him, like everyone around him was quite nihilistic while he had some sort of deeper understanding, and that contrast was painful, but i dont think that qualifies as a endorsement of nihilism being true, like at the end youre waiting to see if he crushes the bug or lets it go, and he lets it go and doesnt even seem like he was considering crushing it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I guess Tyrion left out the detail about the horse getting his eyes popped out
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
That's a good read on Tyrion xp
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
also like tyrion is the bug constantly being crushed - his trying to understand the bug crusher is proxy for trying to understand tywin + cersei + everyone cruel
― Mordy, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
also the thing Tyrion released (pillbug, roly poly, they go by many names) is not only not a beetle but not even an insect. They are tiny crustaceans. FYI.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
Arya's "nothing" comment was pretty far from being a speech. She did a good job with the read- it didn't come off like an atheist truth bomb kind of thing, she made it seem like something the character was realizing as she said it. It didn't linger too long and it didn't sound to me like it was trying to be so #profound #jadensmith
― Evan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
it was the right "bug" for the scene though cause that's exactly what I would expect to see crawling in a dungeon.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link
xp totally Jaden Smith levels. It's not a super-deep show, idk why people are trying to read more into these clunky "meaningful" bits of dialogue when most of the meaning in the show is in what people do rather than what they say.
― gyac, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link