omg the beetle speech was so not nihilistic
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
Seemed that way to me
You wanna know why this guy is killing all these beetles
But then a horse kicks him in the head
Life is pointless like that sometimes
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link
Or sometimes the world sends something along to kill murderous idiots
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
i feel like it was somewhat about the limits of our ability to understand, like tyrion is very smart but he still cant figure it out the bug crushers deal, tho he can perceive that there is a reason, but mostly i think it was about his own humanity and sensitivity rubbing up against the uncaring calcified culture all around him, like everyone around him was quite nihilistic while he had some sort of deeper understanding, and that contrast was painful, but i dont think that qualifies as a endorsement of nihilism being true, like at the end youre waiting to see if he crushes the bug or lets it go, and he lets it go and doesnt even seem like he was considering crushing it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I guess Tyrion left out the detail about the horse getting his eyes popped out
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
That's a good read on Tyrion xp
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
also like tyrion is the bug constantly being crushed - his trying to understand the bug crusher is proxy for trying to understand tywin + cersei + everyone cruel
― Mordy, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
also the thing Tyrion released (pillbug, roly poly, they go by many names) is not only not a beetle but not even an insect. They are tiny crustaceans. FYI.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
Arya's "nothing" comment was pretty far from being a speech. She did a good job with the read- it didn't come off like an atheist truth bomb kind of thing, she made it seem like something the character was realizing as she said it. It didn't linger too long and it didn't sound to me like it was trying to be so #profound #jadensmith
― Evan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
it was the right "bug" for the scene though cause that's exactly what I would expect to see crawling in a dungeon.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link
xp totally Jaden Smith levels. It's not a super-deep show, idk why people are trying to read more into these clunky "meaningful" bits of dialogue when most of the meaning in the show is in what people do rather than what they say.
― gyac, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link
I guess it just didn't bother me so much.
― Evan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link
was fine w/ tyrion's beetlemania, felt one part deep thoughts, one part explaining tyrion's curiosity and tying it to his general humanity, one part this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16WC_Dyo6Fo
arya and the hound feels way more fleshed out than the little bit that was in the book, for the better. that is one thing the show has been able to do more than or better than the books, develop these relationships (some of which aren't even in the book - eg tywin and arya). the same thing happened w/ ygritte and jon snow, and that was w/ the handicap of kit harrington. also rmde at this show and tna but if it takes the form of missandei bathing every week i'll learn to deal. she fine.
― balls, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link
Maybe it's because her character in the book is 11 but Missandei was the one female character on the show who wasn't going to get her kit off.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
the one character I didn't think was going to etc.
apparently the beetle speech was a dig at Orson Scott Card? I guess he managed to diss the show in between all his other insane rants
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
My brother was considering giving up the books, he is at Feast and he heard others saying Dance was as big a slog as where he is at. He felt characters are generally just as good or better (Varys, Margaery and some others) on the tv show. I thought that maybe the epic fantasy elements would be better in the books (something live action screen versions almost never do well) but he says they aren't in much focus.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
Dance is much less of a slog than Feast IMO.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link
― Number None, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:59 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha good
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Did Card make a book about beetles or something, I don't read that loser.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
the bad guys in enders game were bugs
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
and I'm pretty sure all he writes these days is pointless spins on that series
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
Orson Scott Card is the idiot cousin
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
no shit
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
Well, Orson Lannister in the show.
― Evan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
there's been some good stuff w/ the hound&arya but they've got a lot of pride between them. brienne&podrick are great & it feels like they might actually admit they enjoy each other's company. the wandering is best when it increases the scope, reminding you how despite all the Everyone Hates The Lannisters sitcom actually nothing much is going on for most ppl & we check in on hot pie & all he's been caring about is gravy
― ogmor, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
for the most part all the odd couple traveling companions have been great
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
aside from a few bits here and there (the "nothing" monologue included) i think the traveling stuff has been ponderous. im getting a whiff of the shaggy dog from the hound and arya. but im one of those who think the show takes a drastic drop in quality whenever it leaves kings landing.
― ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
im getting a whiff of the shaggy dog from the hound and arya.
I see what you did there. Esp. since Arya's hair is growing out.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
glad someone noticed!
― ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
I've liked the multiple wandering bands, certainly much more interesting than dwagon queens ongoing court drama and the red queen/lord of light slow burn
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
"reminding you how despite all the Everyone Hates The Lannisters sitcom actually nothing much is going on for most ppl & we check in on hot pie & all he's been caring about is gravy"
Uhm, yeah... book-spoiler perhaps, but if that is what people get from those scenes - and before I began reading the books, I'd probably agree - then the show is sorta falling down on describing what's in the books...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link
im rewatching the first ep, dinklage has blonde hair
― lag∞n, Saturday, 7 June 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
He probably hasn't bathed much since then.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Saturday, 7 June 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Well that was pretty snooze town. And not half as eventful as the blackwater episode.
― Dreamland, Monday, 9 June 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link
I was really hoping this season's wildling/nights watch battle would end here but I guess not.
― Dreamland, Monday, 9 June 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link
during the death scene with samwell's friend i kept thinking
http://youtu.be/sYjy7uUn7fc?t=2m20s
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 9 June 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link
xxp yeah less plot dev than blackwater, another paper hanger probably for next season since i assume they won't return to this plotline too much next week. hopefully a more interesting finale ep than previous seasons will follow
― building a desert (art), Monday, 9 June 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link
many arrows
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 June 2014 03:40 (ten years ago) link
hammy deathscene more like "bugger bognor!" right?
― Paul, Monday, 9 June 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link
They killed Pyp! D:
THEY KILLED GRENN! D:
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 9 June 2014 05:00 (ten years ago) link
i kinda dug this ep! i like a good long battle sequence
that wall scythe was badass
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 June 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link
Same!!
That single panning shot that tracked the action inside Castle Black was boss, eff the haters.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 9 June 2014 05:08 (ten years ago) link
dual front battles always p exciting imo
also dudes holding the inner gate against the giant was kinda corny but i dug it a lot
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 June 2014 05:16 (ten years ago) link
I will admit that one shot in castle black was wild
― Dreamland, Monday, 9 June 2014 05:23 (ten years ago) link
I just wish they would've cut to king's landing, or, anything else really. Just once
― Dreamland, Monday, 9 June 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link
noooooo that's why it was gr8
all these eps have like 5 sep storylines, it was great to have this one breathe & give the full scale of battle.
that castle black shot was like if there was a battle in that mc escher castle drawing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 June 2014 05:29 (ten years ago) link
My favorite shot:
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Ice-Age-2-ice-age-627024_1600_1200.jpg
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Monday, 9 June 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link
RIP Ygritte, she thought she knew stuff
― polyphonic, Monday, 9 June 2014 06:44 (ten years ago) link