Enjoyed the Chilean miner and Stephen Crane pieces. I knew next to nothing about Crane so it was a blast.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
the chilean miner one was insane
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
the rock that caused the collapse was the size of a FORTY FIVE STORY BUILDING
"the chilean miner one" is such a platonic ideal description of a new yorker article
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure that i'm reducing if not fully misrepresenting this, but, just re: setting articles into text: i think the nyer's maybe a little constrained by copyright? iirc there's a weird stipulation in us copyright law that means that the thing the new yorker owns of its archive is the layout of the words on the page - so the product they assembled using an author's writing - & that the thing they're able to freely reproduce is this rather than the text itself. i feel like they were probably pretty heavy hitting in getting the rights to pieces back in the day, so maybe they have the text rights as well, but i think with a lot of other printed matter this is the obstacle preventing mass republication.
― schlump, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
prose in the chilean miner piece was so wild. like i didn't know anybody wrote like that anymore. i loved getting like a quarter of the way through & realising the author ~wasn't going to take you out of the mine~.
― schlump, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link
that's interesting re:copyright. It makes sense that the New Yorker doesn't own, say, John Hersey's Hiroshima .
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link
i think the fact that there are other ny-er-specific licensing things going on makes it extra complicated - or i guess less complicated - because there probably is stuff that they either can print or can print without much hassle. so maybe they would own hiroshima in some ways, idk. but i think it is a thing.
― schlump, Thursday, 17 July 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
the chilean minor one was intensely well done
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link
the oakland tech industry piece felt like it was somehow written while the author was in a state of facepalm
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 July 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link
letter from san francisco or w/e it's called is really fun for the last year or so. it's kinda the exact same topic & the exact same raised nyer eyebrows of doubt every time, i like it.
― schlump, Thursday, 17 July 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link
i loved getting like a quarter of the way through & realising the author ~wasn't going to take you out of the mine
Yeah, it was a good decision to focus on that part of it. Feel like I would read a book about this by this author.
― o. nate, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
Really hideous responsive site redesign today: http://www.newyorker.com
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 11:21 (nine years ago) link
Nice that everything's free for the summer though.
― o. nate, Monday, 21 July 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link
it looks fine to me
― k3vin k., Monday, 21 July 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
It’s, Like, O.K. The Way Teens TalkBY ADAM GOPNIK
Kids who use lots of qualifiers are conscientious.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 July 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link
i mean..... adam. adam adam adam adam. can you stop writing? at all? starting now? PLEASE
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 July 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
gdamn ronda rousey has a good publicist
― johnny crunch, Monday, 21 July 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
i don't like the redesign either. every site goes for the same look.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 July 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link
yikes that redesign is weird
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
Paleo diet article was good
― calstars, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
a lot of good stuff lately, e.g. the one about the civil rights act and old-school feminists
also the one about the atlanta teaching scandal
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah i enjoyed the men and one
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 22 July 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
lol n/h, the menand one
the sad thing about the atlanta teaching scandal is after investigation/prosecuting atlanta administrators and teachers for cheating, the state is instituting statewide THE SAME POLICIES THAT LED TO THE CHEATING IN THE FIRST PLACE
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
pretty much the entire country is in some form or other. it does touch on what seems to me one of the bigger misunderstandings, this complete faith in data in fields where we understand so little the idea that analysis of this unprecedented data could yield certainty is absurd. keep waiting for someone to tie common core, prism, wall st quants, etc together (even if only in piecemeal fashion, like a bizarro gladwell), only some w/ enough actual understanding of how data can be useful and why so not just some clueless moron like jill lepore or joe morgan or some angry humanities crank like wieseltier. the closest i've seen of late was that thing carlo rovelli wrote but even there you're talking like a three sentence aside (mixed feelings about that piece in general).
― balls, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link
a friend is an economist whose work is critical of attempts to yoke teacher evaluation to test scores, he spends a lot of space pointing out the problems with and limits of the sort of data that school "reformist" types swear by
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link
i'm gradually moving from science to education and trust me i get the comfort of data, 'you can never have too much data' is damn near a mantra of mine in the lab, but the faith in data (or more accurately testing) i come across in education policy sometimes makes me want to laugh. i mean i'll run a battery of different kind of assays on something before i feel comfortable w/ the results and this is dealing w/ stuff that doesn't possess nearly the confounding factors and we have much more ability to measure than children and learning. i'm totally on board w/ doing the testing and analysis, but pretending to know it will tell us anything nevermind tell us a lot and then basing policy on this new 'knowledge' seems ridiculous to me even before you get in the ponzi scheme aspect of perpetual improvement and the possibility (to me at least, i don't know nearly as much about education policy and history as a lot of ppl here) that this is all in reaction to a crisis that might not even exist.
― balls, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah that was my favorite quote from that article, the one from the mathematician who was like I don't get the magical thinking about data that exists in education these days. it was so nice to have someone just say that. a mathematician, even! I want to quote that article in every single faculty meeting this year.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
the crisis is the same one the Reagan administration identified in 1983 and it's often painted pretty xenophobically. I wish in one of the presentations I've had to sit through a principal or administrator would acknowledge that it is a good thing when kids in other countries get more access to education. and that it's good for everyone in the world. the whole we don't learn math and science well enough to dominate brown and yellow people take on the crisis is kind of whatever to me. the way poor kids get educated compared to the way rich kids get educated in this country is a fucking disgrace, as is the de facto racial segregation in public schools, but as the article points out, you can't address those things in schools alone.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
half the time w/ testing data they don't even know what it is they're measuring
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link
"half the time"
lol
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link
the crisis is the same one the Reagan administration identified in 1983 - haha 'a nation at risk', yeah i wrote a paper on that and the sandia report. i've read stuff that suggests it was a kind of deliberate subversion of reagan's actual education goals, yr basic 'the federal govt has no role in education' stuff along w/ 'unless it's enforcing school prayer' wacko addendums. still a crock of shit study.
― balls, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
Is the site's search broken for everyone else?
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link
yes it just says loading
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link
The MathBabe blog has some interesting posts on education and testing:
http://mathbabe.org/category/education/
― o. nate, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theawl.com/2014/07/all-the-new-yorker-story-roundups-you-should-read-while-the-stories-are-still-unlocked-as-well-as-all-the-new-yorker-stories-they-link-to
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 July 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
i wish the lists were more descriptive but this one seems pretty classic + solid (a lot of them are just decent articles from the last 10-20 years):http://www.businessinsider.com/8-new-yorker-stories-you-should-read-2014-7
― Mordy, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
the businessinsider link isn't showing the articles for free for me. links like this still say "This article is available to subscribers only, in our archive viewer. Get immediate access to this article for just $1 a week by SUBSCRIBING NOW."
has the free thing ended or is it because im uk-based?
― NI, Monday, 28 July 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link
ah. seems it's just the older articles, they don't seem to have been transferred to text and have to be read through the 'archive viewer' which doesn't work for me. no mind, i was only after them to send-to-kindle
― NI, Monday, 28 July 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link
Radical feminists vs. transgender women and Chicago false arrest articles both excellent this week.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
I've linked to this in the transgender thread, but Julia Serano's comments on the article about trans-exclusionary radical feminists (for which she was interviewed) are worth reading as a supplement: http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2014/07/two-articles-related-to-femininity-and.html.
― one way street, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
deleted the disgraceful iphone app today, thank u god for comprehensive web content #blessed
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 August 2014 09:47 (nine years ago) link
not sure if there are legal issues or not, seems like prob not considering theyre already in the web, but putting all the back issues on the web and out of that horrible viewer shd be pretty doable, their formatting is very consistent over the years
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 August 2014 09:52 (nine years ago) link
Just read the Gladwell piece from the other week about organized crime. Amazing that he completely ignores race. Like, he's baffled that organized crime worked as a ladder to middle-class legitimacy for Irish, Italians, Jews, but hasn't done the same for black Americans. He attributes it to better policing, less corruption, pretty much everything but race. Seems clueless even by Gladwell standards.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 August 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link
there was so much abt that was that was just like what exactly are u saying here buddy
― lag∞n, Sunday, 17 August 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
Gladwell is contractually obligated to stare in childlike bemusement at things that are painfully obvious to most everyone else.
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
yeah it was obviously all about race but he seemed kinda shy to say it, even tho... he was saying it
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
On the plus side, it made me interested in reading the book he was talking about.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link