Anticipating Linklater's "Boyhood"

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xp that's like the only thing! and there's no way linklater intended for the scene to be read that way. he's still got ideas about sensitive male authenticity he pushes on everything.

it's interesting that with a film built around pop culture refs we don't really get to know the individual things mason likes as he gets to the age where he'd probably start over-identifying with them. just photography and graffiti and not lacrosse.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 July 2014 01:28 (nine years ago) link

the lack of the line "lacrosse players are assholes" broke the verisimilitude for me tbh

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 July 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

eh I've actually known kids his age detached from pop culture; later they learn that this is how they presented themselves.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

struck me as a sign of the last third's undercookedness, too many teenage waking life monologues and authority figure lessons, not enough bullshit

wish i had a teacher like mr. terlington in HS though

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 July 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link

Haven't read the last couple weeks' posts, but liked this. Great? gtfo.

What makes the last third work is THAT KID -- he just has that translucent cinematic object quality.

Linklater's daughter seemed like a plausibly annoying teenager. This could be the best P Arquette performance I've seen too.

Is this the first time RL has shot inside the Continental Club since Slacker?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link

fuck pop culture history btw

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:25 (nine years ago) link

(except lib idiocy about Obama '08 was nicely documented, semi-unintentionally)

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link

What makes the last third work is THAT KID -- he just has that translucent cinematic object quality.

I'm glad you caught it too. This part of the movie's been shortchanged.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link

and it's beyond him being model-beautiful.

most def think the 'Black Album' scene was partly satirical, even if Linklater can't hate on the Beatles to Alfred's satisfaction.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

Mason's embarrassed gratitude is the giveaway.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

and it's beyond him being model-beautiful

Rather, it's all about how close he came to that level without ever actually quite getting there.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

speaking of model-beautiful: Charlie Sexton as Mason, Sr's musician buddy!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

yeah i didnt realize that was him til the credits.

go back to yr Dave Franco scrapbook, E.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link

i recognized one of the louts in the karate "camping" scene as the kid who was punched out by Robert Forster in The Descendants. Has he aged out of playing teen apes yet?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 02:47 (nine years ago) link

also this was seldom v "Hallmark" or anywhere near tearjerky. I'm trying to think of a comparable piece where the last words we hear from a sympathetic parent as his/her kid departs is a grave-echoey "I expected more."

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link

co-sign on Arquette, have not been that impressed with her in a long time. amusing to see her with her Medium haircut midway through.

Thought I'd seen the late-film girlfriend, Sheena, before, but I think I was just confusing her with Joanna Newsom.

Simon H., Monday, 28 July 2014 04:49 (nine years ago) link

Brooklyn audience obligingly laughed at the hicks and their Bible and guns

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link

Pretty sure that moment will play to laughter everywhere it plays.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

What teenager ever wanted a Bible for their birthday?

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link

Jerry Falwell.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link

so when Mason Sr steals the McCain sign are ppl laughing AT him, or...

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 12:24 (nine years ago) link

(tells the kid to steal it, rather)

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

Your Armond still needs a little spit and polish, but it's getting there.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

(Of course people are laughing at him!)

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

I'm assuming the 2012 prez campaign wasn't mentioned cuz even Austinites couldn't fake it anymore.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

A film crit on my wall remarked on the unusualness in the 21st century of letting Mason drive to college on his first day of dorm check-in.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

letting Mason drive ALONE, that is.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link

but gawd linklater really only has one idea of male adolescence/youngadulthood doesn't he?

What other ideas is he supposed to have -- YOURS? Rather perhaps you mean he has similar ways of expressing his sense of this period, which only makes sense.

You ppl sure paid a lot of attention to Wiley Wiggins. I've seen D&C 4 or 5 times and Waking Life at least twice, and every time he's mentioned I have to remind myself who he is.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link

he's not as cute as Mason.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

just saw computer chess, did not recognize him.

wmlynch, Monday, 28 July 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link

Wiley Wiggins was in that?!

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

i think ethan hawke was my fave part abt this whole thing, like it was almost secretly a film about a deadbeat dad coming of age a decade and a half late. even towards the end he's still kind of giving shitty advice to mason but he's totally a way better dad than he's ever been up to that point

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

The audience sort of laughed/sighed/clucked at EH's "Women always wanna trade up" line near the end.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

Because we saw so little of Mason's best friend, their relationship was ambiguous for me to wonder for a few minutes whether he and Mason were lovers and that's why they were nervous about attending the graduation party.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

its just awkward bein a teen, man

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link

Alfred hoping 'Richard Linklater' was a pseud for Gus Van Sant

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

i think ethan hawke was my fave part abt this whole thing, like it was almost secretly a film about a deadbeat dad coming of age a decade and a half late. even towards the end he's still kind of giving shitty advice to mason but he's totally a way better dad than he's ever been up to that point

Yeah, I think this is what I enjoyed most about the movie.

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

sheena is a dead ringer for joanna n -- otm!
i noticed that too and wondered if she was chosen specifically for that reason and then given the name "sheena"

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

also i knew that mason sr's dad looked like a famous person. charlie sexton -- of course!! dude totally has the look of a lifer in the music biz. great casting.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

btw gross this weekend was over $1.7 M on 107 screens

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Alfred hoping 'Richard Linklater' was a pseud for Gus Van Sant

Well, there was the nail polish too.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

extra lols at Mason Sr marveling over Roger Clemens' pitching performance circa 2005, unaware that he's 'roided up.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

i was proud and then then ashamed to know that year was 2005 based on clemens' ERA

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 July 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

and

What other ideas is he supposed to have -- YOURS? Rather perhaps you mean he has similar ways of expressing his sense of this period, which only makes sense.

You ppl sure paid a lot of attention to Wiley Wiggins. I've seen D&C 4 or 5 times and Waking Life at least twice, and every time he's mentioned I have to remind myself who he is.

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, July 28, 2014 10:01 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no -- "ideas" was the wrong word i guess, i am talking really literally about the type of people linklater makes his young male characters, all tending to be variations of that boho slacker ideal just placed into different movies at different times. mason was very similar to me as a teenager! that's sort of the problem. his movies have these Authentic Young Male Experiences while the boys around the protag are all of lesser meaning, lacking that spark of significance and philosophy and vulnerability and artistic concern, and the girls are all just crushes or girlfriends or some sort of seductresses. i don't know why i expected different from him this time. i thought it was good up until the high school years but then linklater's favorite character to write surges forth. though you could tell he was gonna go that way with the "you spend all class looking out the window" comment in the beginning. i get very annoyed by writers who spend decades without ever divorcing their young characters with their own youths or their own ideas of what their youths should have been. i will say that his bio parents (even with hawke being another extension of this type) were well-written.

and when i say wiley wiggins i'm just talking about his character in D+C whose name i don't remember. had no idea he was in WW.

you're getting awfully huffy about something you found merely good, do you always yell your way into realizing you like a movie more than originally thought?

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 July 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

er had no idea he was in *waking life

WW, WL, etc

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

you're getting awfully huffy about something you found merely good, do you always yell your way into realizing you like a movie more than originally thought?

― linda cardellini (zachlyon)

aw you don't know our Morbs!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it usually goes the opposite direction.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

It'll happen with this one the more people that see it.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link


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