Rollins does a lot of USO touring and hospital appearances, so I don't think he's hardmanning cancer patients and wounded vets. For a guy who likes to dig into the nuances of things, he's totally missing it here.
― Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link
That being said, and even being a bit of a Rollins fan, I don't agree with any of it because I'm not really into the whole absolutist it's THIS not THIS and if it's anything else FUCK OFF
this. I'm sympathetic to so many of the feelings he describes, but I that he has to give it that BETTER EAT YOUR WHEATIES spin
― da croupier, Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
I hate that he has to give it that spin, i mean
and depression leading to suicide isn't the kind of choice that he frames it is, fuck everything and everyone I'm going to die. it's a frame of mind that's unrecognizable, choices made that completely discount your own value to the world around you, it's just...talking about it in that way is really naive to me
i really do understand what he means about children, and I don't necessarily think he's wrong exactly, I just don't think that it's a line in the sand kind of argument and seriously coming down against suicide over a guy who's already dead is just the most pointless waste of words to me
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
should have just stopped the essay with I get it, but then again, maybe I don’t. and left out the following contradictory shit about respecting the choices of people he no longer takes seriously, they blew it, i got life by the gonads etc etc
― da croupier, Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
guessing the la weekly is not a place that will suggest you trim the argumentative noise from your thinkpiece
― da croupier, Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link
lol
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
rollins's reaction seems understandable as a personal reaction -- you know, something you'd write for yourself just to get it off your chest, then forget about -- but i don't know why he felt the need to publish it. he doesn't seem like a bad guy but i wonder how he can possibly think he's being helpful to anyone by saying stuff like:
Almost 40,000 people a year kill themselves in America, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In my opinion, that is 40,000 people who blew it.
like, does he seriously think that many, if any, of those 40,000 people would have benefited from his "you gotta hang in there" approach? does he think that none of those 40,000 people ever heard anything like that before? pretty much anyone who's ever been open about their depression gets exposed to that "just buck up, get over it" shit.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link
i also don't get why you'd end any essay that isn't about at least one of the stooges with "raw power forever."
― da croupier, Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link
I have life by the neck and drag it along. Rarely does it move fast enough. Skynyrd rules.
― da croupier, Friday, 22 August 2014 00:00 (nine years ago) link
All of Williams' children are adults, btw
― polyphonic, Friday, 22 August 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link
grab parkinson's disease by the neck
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 August 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link
people who are not 15 years old listen to anything Henry Rollins has to say?
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 August 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link
honestly at this point 15 year olds don't probably know who he is so i guess it's adults who listen to him
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 August 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
jd otm, i am acquainted with people who have grabbed cancer, parkinson's, and depression by the neck. the dif is that if you die from cancer or parkinson's, ppl go "damn, he grabbed that shit by the neck, well fought," but if you fail with depression, they do quite often go, "what a pussy, he blew it."
i mean yeah, lolhank, but fuck him hard on this.
― Five Lofts Left (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
who's henry rollins
― heck (silby), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
oh he's the guy from the tattoo band
― heck (silby), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
which blob of ink is he
― Five Lofts Left (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/dNhoboZ.png
he's got a look
― heck (silby), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link
blue steel, man
― Five Lofts Left (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link
mrs doubtfire. i've come to incinerate you.
― example (crüt), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
"blew it" is such a sensitive and apt metaphor too
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 August 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
i haven't read that henry rollins thing so this is a non-sequitur but: kinda surprised at how many suicidal ppl i've admitted recently that have cited RW as a trigger
― gbx, Friday, 22 August 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
rollins thing is such garbageimagine being outraged so many people ~choose~ to kill themselves
― schlump, Friday, 22 August 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
I don't think we've posted this yet. Somebody dug thru the next World of Warcraft update and found what will probably his tribute in teh game. Versions of Genie, Mrs Doubtfire, and Mork should be showing up.
http://www.avclub.com/article/heres-what-world-warcrafts-robin-williams-characte-208404
http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5201/71/16x9/640.jpg
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 22 August 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link
i'm a longtime fan of rollins but this was such stupid garbage.
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Friday, 22 August 2014 08:12 (nine years ago) link
^same here
― Nhex, Friday, 22 August 2014 08:21 (nine years ago) link
does Rollins have kids
do they have the right to have a dad that isn't an embarrassing fuckheel
idk
― genderification: gone too far? (darraghmac), Friday, 22 August 2014 08:46 (nine years ago) link
the kids thing is paretic offensive given his daughter has made it clear williams' kids totally understood and were sympathetic of what their dad was going through. poor concern trolling from the man who wrote low self opinion imo
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Friday, 22 August 2014 09:10 (nine years ago) link
This Rollins is a cunt looks like
― a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Friday, 22 August 2014 09:54 (nine years ago) link
guys, i somehow avoided this has-been's 'hot take' til now, u could've too
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 August 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
After the New Yorker debacle, I treat everything signed by a Rollins as a joke
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link
lmao
― some dude, Friday, 22 August 2014 13:06 (nine years ago) link
When someone commits this act, he or she is out of my analog world.
note to self: rethink suicide, remain in Henry Rollins' analog world
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 22 August 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link
http://31.media.tumblr.com/eed9d4fb10fef77f2e1f9c09d53044d8/tumblr_mqdckg70fC1sqhsqco1_400.gif
― Two Scoops of Plump, Juicy Raisins (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link
What is an analog world? Stop it, Henry.
― Peeking at Peak Petty (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
did anyone else watch the short video thor harris (from swans) made about depression and suicide? it was really good. i was annoyed with him for that blowhardy list he wrote about "how to live" but he is a tenderhearted person and i identified with a lot of what he said.
henry rollins can eat a big fat donut and kindly stfu
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link
that list by thor is one of my favorite things
― famous instagram God (waterface), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link
and is not blowhardy at all
http://monofonuspress.com/how-to-live-like-a-king-for-very-little-by-thor-harris
― famous instagram God (waterface), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link
<3 thor
― example (crüt), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link
this is the video, it's not even 8 min longworth a watchhttp://www.stereogum.com/1700410/watch-swans-thor-harris-explain-his-major-depression-in-a-great-short-documentary/video/
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link
here's the doc on thor
http://www.stereogum.com/1700410/watch-swans-thor-harris-explain-his-major-depression-in-a-great-short-documentary/video/
― famous instagram God (waterface), Friday, 22 August 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
oops
what a beautiful man he is.
― estela, Friday, 22 August 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
sensible list imo.
― Five Lofts Left (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 August 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
ah, that video is wonderful, too. what a humane voice.
― Five Lofts Left (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 August 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS-8vo0Rnec
― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Friday, 22 August 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
"Life isn’t anything but what you make it." - rollins
pull yourself up by your bootstraps you saddos *kisses biceps*
― ͡ᵒಠಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠಠᵒ (am0n), Friday, 22 August 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
ugh i just realized that jack frost movie is more than 15 years old
― da croupier, Friday, 22 August 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link