Yes is the answer to all those questions
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 10:38 (nine years ago) link
Actually Torchwood gets a mention in Bad Wolf, 2 eps before The Christmas Invasion.
― JimD, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link
soda otm, I always thought Osgood was such an all round cringeworthy creation. The thought of her ever becoming a companion is/was horrifying.
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
season ranked:
Flatline Listen The Caretaker Deep Water Into the Dalek Time Heist Death in Heaven Mummy on the Orient Express Deep Breath Robot of Sherwood Kill the Moon In the Forest of the Night
I would rank Forest as a 6/10 story, to give you a sense of how I felt about the season overall.
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
ListenInto the DalekKill the MoonThe CaretakerDeath on the Orient ExpressRobot of SherwoodIn the Forest of the NightDeep WaterFlatlineTime HeistDeep BreathDeath in Heaven
I'd rank Death in H as a five out of ten and Listen as 10. everything down to Deep Water an 8.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
pretty much agree with DJP here. this was an exceptional series.
― akm, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
it really was. I'm not a hardcore whovian but have seen a fair bit and this is unequivocally my favourite series and my favourite Doctor.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
Fuck it, I think Time Heist was actually my favourite. So much fun.
Time HeistListenDeath on the Orient ExpressThe CaretakerDark WaterFlatlineDeep BreathDeath in HeavenInto the DalekRobot of SherwoodIn the Forest of the NightKill the Moon
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
I think most of the episodes were solid 7s or 8s, and then Listen and the Caretaker couldve been 9 or 10 if not for their ropey emo endings.
Deep Breath is the only real stinker here, which by default makes this probably this the most consistent nu-Who season, if not the most enjoyable (for me, season 1 and 5/6a were patchiness but more fun). Like season 7, it didnt have any super standouts, but the writing and acting just seemed massively more confident. (A good Gatiss episode, even!).
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
"Dark Water," chums, not "Deep Water."
― khaleeesi (Leee), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
oof. oh yes. dark breath, the robot of the night, time dalek, caretaker in heaven, flatline on the sherwood express etc.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
look, I didn't correct everyone who said "Death on the Orient Express", I feel some reciprocity is due
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
I got everything wrong. everyone else's fault of course :/
genre writing have annoyingly interchangeable elements.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
That's no way to speak of Danmickrory.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
lol. I meant genre *titles*.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 13 November 2014 06:34 (nine years ago) link
Just got as far as the Tennant era library 2parter and not only does it feature River Song recognising him after large amounts of previous meetings though it's a different doctor.But more relevant to this particular thread, the girl really resembles a young Gemma Louise. Coleman So I wonder if there was any level of consideration when she was cast. Probably just coincidence. But if they wanted to cast somebody as a childhood version this actress at this point would have been great. Had me wondering for a moment if this was old enough to be her. But I'd guess it was 5 or 10 years too late.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 16 November 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link
So the Doctor meets Santa Claus? I liked the comedy brought to the Doctor vs. the merry Robin Hood mythos but not sure it would work w Santa.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 04:49 (nine years ago) link
Also I loved how he fixed things by abdicating responsibility. All episode they were piling things onto him: "you are the president of earth!" "now you have control over an eternal cybermen army!"
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 04:52 (nine years ago) link
i liked the extended clip, and i ama sucker for nick frost
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 04:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm sure Santa will be revealed to be an alien, right? (With possibly a little wink that maybe it was the real Santa Claus after all.) That's what they've done to all the other mythological creatures in the show, so why not him?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 07:42 (nine years ago) link
The President of the Earth thing bothered me a bit, because it's never been established that any politician besides maybe a few British ones even knows who the Doctor is, right? How did they get countries like Venezuela or Iran to accept that this supposed alien with a Scottish accent should have that power? Maybe if people would still remember the events of the season 3 finale, you could justify it, but they pressed the reset button on that.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 07:48 (nine years ago) link
my impression was that The Doctor was U.N.I.T.'s nominee and everyone was like "OK you guys would know best"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 08:56 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah, but considering how some countries feel about the UN, I doubt everyone would just let them decide.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:22 (nine years ago) link
I guess the idea is people think readjust their priorities in the face of an alien invasion, cf http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090731013009/watchmen/images/5/5d/Alienmonster.jpg
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:24 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, badly put together post. Just woke up.
Basically the whole episode had this really forced way of getting to the moral choice at its climax: the Doctor is named the King of Earth out of the blue, Missy's whole complex plan was there just to get the Doctor to admit they're not that different, etc. The plot didn't have the sort of natural flow that would make these twists seem inevitable, you could pretty much see the writer pulling the strings.
(xxpost)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:26 (nine years ago) link
The two-parter that opened season 6 had the Doctor helping out Nixon so yes, some other heads of state besides British ones have encountered him.
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 11:30 (nine years ago) link
black helicopters, blue police box
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
That was the worst Nixon impression I've ever seen, btw.
― In Which Doctor Who Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time (Leee), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
Panto Nixon, panto Churchill.
― the incredible string gland (sic), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
at least Nixon was the only bad thing in his story; the Churchill Dalek story was bad enough to be in season 2
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
Ironsides Dalek was cool.
(So was it asking “would- you- like- some- TEA?”, though that was a riff on Power Of The Daleks’ “We- Are- Your- SER-vants,” but I hadn’t recon-watched Power then.)
― the incredible string gland (sic), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
bbc america going all in with a reboot-a-thon leading up to this year's wobs special at 9pm xmas day
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Christmas Specials back to being forgettable and mediocre again, I see.
― Leeegally Blonde (Leee), Friday, 26 December 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
SHADDUP I HAVENT WATCHED YET
:)
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
Then what are you doing clicking on this thread? ;)
― Leeegally Blonde (Leee), Friday, 26 December 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link
nah this was good. it's not the best christmas special but it did the job. and I was happy with the resolution which everyone had been wondering about.
― akm, Friday, 26 December 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link
I really enjoyed this
The 'don't look' dream crabs idea was a bit meh and nebulous but that middle section with Clara and Danny holy crap I was a bit of a mess after that, unexpected teariness. Also got lots of feels when Clara hugged Capaldi Doc on the sleigh that was v nice
Nick Frost was a lovely Santa, and I loved the ending
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 December 2014 05:04 (nine years ago) link
this was at least the second-best Christmas special ever
― Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 26 December 2014 10:48 (nine years ago) link
This was the best Christmas episode I can remember, mainly because it was just a fun base-under-siege story with festive trimming. Nick Frost as Santa could have gone very wrong, but having him as a brusque Doctorish-figure really worked. I really wish the episode had been called Tangerine Dream, though.
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, 26 December 2014 11:10 (nine years ago) link
this was great fuiud
really glad they're keeping Clara around. She grew into a fantastic character over the course of this season.
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 26 December 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link
The emotional character bits (Danny telling Clara to wake up, Clara hugging the Doctor, the final scene) were nicely done, but the crab story itself was pretty standard and predictable, and it felt like there was way too much exposition by the Doctor and Santa to explain things that were obvious already. Also, if the crabs didn't want people to realize they were dreaming, why did they include themselves in the dream? Why didn't they just give everyone normal, happy dreams, like the one Clara first had?
But yeah, I was glad to see Clara stick around. Though the granny Clara scene felt almost too much of a meta thing to play on the viewers' expectations: "This is her last episode, time to say goodbyes... Gotcha, no it isn't!"
― Tuomas, Friday, 26 December 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
she's had like, 5 goodbye scenes now. wonder how she'll really leave when she does?
don't buy for a second that danny is gone for good either.
― akm, Friday, 26 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
also saw some grumbling that her age-ing makeup was poor but I thought it was pretty good, better than the bad green screen on the sleigh. still, totally enjoyable all the way through.
This ruled
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
Those crabs were creepy as HELL
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Sunday, 28 December 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
otm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
i have been watching reruns from tennant/rose and tennant/donna (and smith & capaldi)
i forgot that slade song had been used in other christmas specials :D
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 December 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I thought we were all "Boo on true wub" gooey-eyes, how am I supposed to know what to think now.
BTW Clara/Doctor/the others never had head wounds, even more like the Inceptions now.
― Baruch Olbermann (Leee), Sunday, 28 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
I really hope they're not still dreaming.
One of the people I was watching with is a hardcore Buddhist and she was loving the layers of dreams.
― camp event (suzy), Sunday, 28 December 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link