The Discreet Charm of Luis Bunuel

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And it would have made a better video than anything the Pixies ever made. Wonder if anyone has ever synched them...?

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Given the talk about Bunuel dbl bills above there are a couple of them at the Riverside Studios that look good: tomorrow its Discreet Charm... with Diary of a Chambermaid

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 August 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Weird, saw Obscure Object again tonight. Still my favourite film of all time. My friend thought it was interminably boring.

One idiot even called me "redcoat" because I'm (country matters), Sunday, 2 August 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

The Phantom Of Liberty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monty Python's Meaning Of Life

(they're kinda pretty similar IMO)

acoleuthic, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

ok I'm gonna rank the Bunuel I've seen - please dispute, suggest (ban) etc

That Obscure Object Of Desire (favourite film ever)
The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoise (in personal top 5)
The Exterminating Angel (in personal top 20)
The Phantom Of Liberty (possibly in personal top 30 - it's really fucking arresting and GODDAMN funny)
Viridiana (first one I saw! awesome)
Belle De Jour (not as good as the other late-periods...he hadn't quite nailed his colour mastery or subject-matter...but still a marvellous film)
Tristana (nice, mysterious, a bit forgettable, kinda haunting)
L'Age D'Or (DO YOU SEE?!?!?!)
Un Chien Andalou (DO YOU SEE?!?!?! except really short and kinda more a piece of video art than a film - an important one tho, and nice piano-dragging image)

basically he had a genius for injecting surrealism into film, but only slowly did he learn (starting really with The Exterminating Angel which is the best disaster movie ever) to inject that surrealism into a tangible depiction of reality, and only slowly did he grow to fully understand the human brain - his later works are as savage, light-footed and wry as anything committed to film - he is the greatest director to have lived IMO -

acoleuthic, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

what did u love so much about The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoise? i never got too much out of his movies cept for Belle De Jour tbh. Un Chien Andalou has some arresting images but so what

Michael B, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't find L'Age d'Or DO YOU SEE?!?!?!?! at all. It'd be in my top 2 or 3, there are so many beautiful images and awesome gags in it. The opening 10-15 minutes is probably my favourite Buñuel, alongside the close of Simon del Desierto. The later movies are great but to my mind they're far more engaged in DYS-satire than L'Age d'Or, which just feels more thoroughly its own thing, a purer surrealism and blast of black humour.

Think you'd like The Milky Way a good deal, LJ, and everybody should see Simon given a chance - no region 2 DVD yet, bastards.

Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Un Chien Andalou has some arresting images but so what

Think this hinges on "Are you down with Surrealists y/n?" tbh, and your tolerance for unorthodox narrative (not necessarily the absence of narrative).

Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

diary of a chambermaid
viridiana
los olvidados
tristana
the exterminating angel

of those i've seen

nakhchivan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

TDCOTB is basically an airy breeze through the stately, unobtrusive ambitions of a bunch of well-to-do sorts (such as those who might work on or watch one of his movies), and how they are undercut at every turn by chance, flaw, error, being in a bad dream, or pure spite. They retain their dignity as best they can. They are shown at their most undignified, and yet they walk tall. The comedy is profound. You gotta trust me on this one. It's fucken profound. And it's made with such chutzpah...Bunuel's mastery of the deadpan situational twist is absolute by this point.

BDJ is a little more forced IMO, a little more contrived, although it has some fantastic ideas and images. TDCOTB does the whole 'fantasy/reality' dichotomy much more sublimely - they're not just one and the same but you're really not sure there's much of a dichotomy any more. This all culminates in the heatstroke of filmic gnosticism that is his final, absolute work - as feather-light and knowing a portrait of man as I've seen. :)

I need to see L'Age D'Or again! I saw it once and was a bit 'buhhhhh ok that's quite pointed' - it's still great but I felt it was very much based upon its iconoclasm - it was hitting rather than delicately imbibing. Nonetheless some images and segues are amazing - the violing getting kicked down the street is one of my favourite things

And yes, The Milky Way is very much on the agenda

acoleuthic, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

as I've said before 'the very finest surrealism is perfectly logical to someone' and Bunuel understands this more and more as he goes on

acoleuthic, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sketchy with bunuel & am gonna rent that obscure object on your sayso LJ. i will webmail you for a reimbursement if it's terrible.

Un Chien Andalou has some arresting images but so what

ha ha, really? i mean it's not like you invest hours and get minimal return.

do so schlump! i will merely turn up at your house with a bucket of water

acoleuthic, Sunday, 4 April 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

'reimbursement'/spongebath

Get Simon of the Desert.

I still stand what I wrote upthread:

More than anything by Sam Fuller, those Mexican Bunuel films make an airtight case for the virtues of the B-movie ethos as practised by an artist. Take Mexican Bus Ride, Susana, or Wuthering Heights. The acting is at best listless, the production values a little better than fifth graders using construction paper and papier mache, but man! He was never more authentically subversive and hence surrealist.

Also: last year's DVD release of The Exterminating Angel, which I never much liked after college, was revelatory for me.

Yeah, I need to check those films out xpost

My best friend and I saw that TEA DVD together a few months ago, in absolute awe. The group's descent into despair is so convincing! Parts seem almost improvised in their unfolding horror. And the last five minutes is the pulling of the most almighty rug - yeah, pretty Do You See but also completely awesome

acoleuthic, Sunday, 4 April 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Las Hurdes is STILL ahead of its time.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 4 April 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Las Hurdes was once available in a twofer edition with Un Chien Andalou. When I saw it in high school with some buddies, we all screamed when the sheep or the goat toppled off the hill.

Get a hold of as many of the Mexican Buñuels as you can. They're all pretty much great viewing and personal favorites because of the restrained use of Surrealist touches in many of them (the Meat Dream in Los Olvidados being prob his most unrestrained ).

Bow Before Zeezrom!!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 4 April 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Las Hurdes is STILL ahead of its time.

Actually, that's bull. Raul Ruiz certainly picked up where Las Hurdes left off. And then some. In fact, Ruiz's entire career has been rather Las Hurdes-esque.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 4 April 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Ruiz is an underrated master but the last couple of films I've seen have been disconcertingly hacky. Still - he seems to be the only person fit to have carried on in Buñuel's shoes. "Combat D'amour En Songe" is tremendous - like "The Milky Way" run through Borges, medieval Romances and Robert Louis Stevenson..

Bow Before Zeezrom!!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 4 April 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Get a hold of as many of the Mexican Buñuels as you can.

my favorite one of this period & the most obsessive = El (This Strange Passion) -- do not miss

Milton Parker, Monday, 5 April 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

breaking an egg on the lense of the camera.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Monday, 5 April 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I kinda regret my one-sentence summary of L'Age D'Or now, and really do want to see it again ASAP in order to banish such sentiments

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

on The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, which I'm rewatching:

Bunuel's mastery of the deadpan situational twist is absolute by this point

OTM.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually went hunting upthread to see who that was! VINDICATION

The Phantom Of Liberty is absolutely nothing BUT deadpan situational twists - it's dazzling, but I would agree with anyone who said that Bunuel was at his best when operating within a (loose) plot.

Is there any other filmmaker who has this ability to present the ludicrous as logical?

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...
three weeks pass...

Didn't know Death in the Garden got a DVD release a couple of years ago! Found it at the library today. Good interview with Michel Piccoli included with the extras.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Has anyone seen that documentary,A proposito de Buñuel aka Regarding Luis Buñuel?

Did you like Death in the Garden, Alfred? I remember being kind of bored by it.

BIG TOONCES aka the steendriving cat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

"A proposito de Buñuel " is basically his son Juan-Luis and Jean Claude Carriere travelling around to various sites that were formative to Buñuel (Spain, Paris, LA, Mexico...). Many cool anecdotes along the way, especially a sort of sad one about LB and Dali late in their lives. Worth watching.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 23 June 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

Did you like Death in the Garden, Alfred? I remember being kind of bored by it.

yep -- a bore.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Seem to dimly remember him blaming its floppitude on the cameraman in that interview with the Mexicans book.

BIG TOONCES aka the steendriving cat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 June 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

should've voted Tristana

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 June 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

That film was damn near impossible to find even in the nineties. I saw it once on VHS in '97.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

Tristana? I've got it on the DVD box set.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

Hoberman reviews a new book on Don Luis' opportunistic, card-carrying Communist years:

http://www.thenation.com/article/167559/charismatic-chameleon-luis-bunuel

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

adventures of robinson crusoe is on tcm this wkend, sunday late i believe

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 April 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Wrote a blurb about the Criterion release of The Milky Way.

I forgot that BDJ released earlier this year.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

watched Exterminating Angel for the first time in an age last week. age hasn't diminished it tho its claustrophobia was more intense than i remembered.

have been very fond of The Milky Way since i first saw it, something about the cinematography and the locations and the look and feel of it i find hugely soothing, more so than any other Buñuel i think

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

when I first saw the milky way I was like "oh great this is the jesus movie" and for whatever reason, probably what noodle said, but I found it deeply moving

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

the movie is like a really great new song on a greatest hits comp

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

Tristana is showing at Linc Ctr tnite, and I don't see any evidence of a Region 1 DVD in print.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

another plug for Objects of Desire. Good xmas gift.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

watched El Bruto on a decent DVD transfer. One of his Mexican potboilers. Entertaining but not as rich as Wuthering Heights or El. Best scene is a lovemaking that takes place while some pork is being roasted on a fire.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

also: goddamn it when are we getting Criterion release for Los olvidados?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

Cohen Film Collection put out Tristana stateside on dvd/blu last month.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

we're in midst of a retro -- may see Susana tnite

http://www.bam.org/film/2014/bunuel

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

Fernando Rey is magnificent in Tristana, which I confirm is close to the summit of LB's work

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 July 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link

Él is really somethin'... I mean, look at the first 5 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wy2rL6e_Ao

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 03:17 (nine years ago) link


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