Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. -- Marvel meets Joss Whedon meets...TV!

also reminds me of Batman: the animated series (more for the score than anything)

that's the best sell i've heard yet

:D

i am really taken with this show, not gonna lie

It was tosh but enjoyable. More kind of reminded me of Lois and Clark -- certainly an early '90s vibe. The second episode was a ton better, especially the action scenes -- they might be low budget but that also means zero CGI, so yay.

low budget usually means more cgi, imo

unless you believe they really blew up a truck

Ok, small-scale CGI is better than clusterfuck planet destroying CGI at every movie conclusion

The weird thing about Netflix is that you have no idea what shows are actually "on" in the non-timeshifted world. I just finished watching season 1 and I'm like "OK now I can go look at the ILX thread about this" and WAAAA- there's a second season already.

Well, back to not reading this thread. Season 1 was strangely watchable despite being, in every objective sense, pretty bad -- clunky line after clunky line, every whiff of romance almost unbearable to watch, barely a hint of Whedon. It's kind of like the Marvel Universe version of Hemlock Grove.

I will watch season 2 when Netflix has it.

What's happened with series 2? Is it just taking a mid season break and returning shortly? Wikipedia which I guess I shouldn't be relying on for information anyway has no broadcast date or other info beyond episode 10. So I'm hoping that's just a glitch not that there's nothing beyond that cliffhanger.
I tend to check Wikipedia's Episodes pages for broadcast dates/amount of episodes when it has just occured to me that there may be such info from the channel website. Is a bit easier though since I don't really know who's doing what when I'm getting most things as d/lds.

Enjoying Agent Carter. Like the touch of her having to put up with a media representation of a fictional her substitute on the radio show. & the representation of cultural morés, inherent endemic sexism etc which she has to deal with.
Can see the Dick Tracy vibe and maybe the Batman AS thing too.

S2 isn't copming back until Agent Carter's off-air.

shield comes back in march (?)

anyway agent carter is like a mini season, only 6 eps to fill the shield break

Yeah. I looked at the wikipedia episodes page again and next episode is March. 16th I think.

Agent Carter is really rad imo

right!?

hayley atwell is so good

peggy and jarvis are a great team

Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. I do wish it was slightly goofier though, being played a bit too straight for my Marvel tastes.

i went back & rewatched the Cap America movies, super-impressed at how, like Colson in Agents of Shield, its like she walked the movie straight into the show

walked *off* the movie

hope agent carter gets to a terrestrial tv channel in the uk.
me and the young'un have totally got into agents of sheild.

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This week's Agent Carter was the first one that I really loved. The routine with the table was what tipped it over the edge.

Easily the best episode since the pilot. Also the first one not to use period music in a fight scene or montage, which was a help.

yep, that was great. hayley atwell is so, so good in this!

this past episode made me want to go back and binge watch all of the ones I missed prior to it, although I never felt lost or like I was missing pertinent info that would impede my enjoyment of the episode

I have to wonder if relatively nonexistent expectations are fueling some people's enjoyment of this over SHIELD. Like, the level of positive fan buzz over this seems roughly equivalent to the negative buzz over SHIELD, but SHIELD is equally good and fun as Agent Carter, imo. Although Hayley Atwell is certainly a selling point in favor of the latter.

(I promised myself I'd stop getting defensive about SHIELD.)

As much of a FOOM borderline Marvel Zombie as I am I've found the DC shows I've seen (mostly Arrow) more entertaining than either of the AGENTs shows

that was a satisfying wrap-up - what a fun eight episodes. i hope they get around to making more.

Agreed, nicely done overall.

I've just been assuming that there must be an AoS plot point being set up by AC. Though it is really enjoyable itself.
So yeah do hope it will return but am looking forward to more AoS. Is this continuation of the same series or a new series?

Continuation - picks up from the last episode.

Show has now regained equilibrium at its Black Guy quota of 1. Things were getting unstable for a while.

― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), 11. joulukuuta 2014 23:26

I've been catching up with this series, when they introduced Mack in season 2, I told my flatmate, "Oh, now they have more than the one required token black guy, wanna bet one of them is gonna die?". Though I expected it to be Mack, because Tripp had already been established during the previous season.

I have to say, I can't for the life of me understand why people compare Arrow favourably to this series? I've tried to watch the first season of Arrow, but the characterization and actors in it are just so horrible (especially the main guy), all the characters feel like stiff underwear models spouting tired cliches. Compared to them, the protagonists in AoS feel way more lived-in and human. Okay, Skye was a bit too wide-eyed and Mary Sueish at first, but as her story arc has progressed she's become more tolerable too. And everyone else in this is pretty great! Even Mr. Handsome got way more interesting once he was revealed to be baddie, and his actor has stepped up his game accordingly.

We've blown through the first two seasons of Arrow over the last several weeks. Lots more groanworthy moments than on SHIELD, for sure, but it's pretty entertaining trash. And it's certainly improved over time. But, yeah, definitely a lesser show (and not just because I'm a Marvel Zombie). I agree with you in that I'm generally not as concerned with the relationships of the characters on Arrow as I am with those on SHIELD, but Arrow is all action and twists and turns and raising stakes and it does what it does just fine. It just serves to underscore the relative subtlety of SHIELD, which I think is one of the show's greatest strengths (and possibly one of the elements that keeps a lot of fans of the MCU from getting onboard).

Also started watching the current season of Arrow alongside Flash, which serves up a whole other contrast (I'm already super into Flash two episodes in, and Grant Gustin immediately came across as more likeable and charismatic than most of the cast of Arrow when he first appeared as a guest star on that show, so I'm really glad he got a showcase of his own).

the relative subtlety of SHIELD

I can't even imagine what Arrow must be like if it makes SHIELD look subtle.

Arrow is a wet dream of a libertarian "rugged individual" nightmare imo. Couldn't stomach it.

Going purely off of the promos, I thought people watched Arrow for the abs.

I'm more into the delts, but there's a little something there for everyone.

Arrow is a wet dream of a libertarian "rugged individual" nightmare imo. Couldn't stomach it.

most superhero stories are this to one degree or another, tho, and tbf a large part of ollie's arc in arrow is him realising that he very much needs other people around him (and not just to admire his abs)

I'm not SUPER familiar with Green Arrow as a hero but my impression of the bits of him I've seen in the comics is that he's the less suave, more dickish Tony Stark

Arrow suffers badly under the weight of its need to have season plot arcs, would be better if it was just baddie of the week stuff like Flash is. Suicide Squad eps remain the best thing about the show, and the minor recurring characters (Deadshot, Cupid) are far better fleshed out and more compelling than the main Scooby Gang. It's also vastly inferior to Flash and you can't help comparing the two given the shared(ish) cast and crossovers.

SHIELD has been lucky in that it has been able to use the conspiracy thriller elements of Winter Soldier as a springboard - the best eps all came at the end of S1 and so far S2 has been so intent on acting as a seeder for the forthcoming Inhumans film that it doesn't quite know what it's supposed to be. Kyle McL's scenery chewing has been great if you like that sort of thing.

My big problem with SHIELD at the moment is the treatment of Grant Ward - it feels like they're trying to SHOCKING TWIST him in every episode and he doesn't feel like he has a character any more. Also TWO SHIELDS think is weak, seems like they're trying to glom on to Winter Soldier again rather than do something new.

I'm not SUPER familiar with Green Arrow as a hero but my impression of the bits of him I've seen in the comics is that he's the less suave, more dickish Tony Stark

he's basically batman in all but name in the tv show, to the point where his main foe at the moment is ra's al ghul

but my impression of the bits of him I've seen in the comics is that he's the less suave, more dickish Tony Stark

Silver Age stuff is just wacky inventor stuff, kind of like poor quality SA Batman. Come 1969 Neal Adams turned him into Super Democrat and in the GA/GL era him and Hal drive across America like the Odd Couple of US politics - Hal is Mister Conservative and Ollie just wants to be free, he wants to ride his machine without being hassled by the man and he wants to get loaded. But not heroin because he hates that. He then gets a job at a left-wing newspaper to rock the vote.

He gets Crisis-ed out of existence, then reborn grim 'n' gritty. He got blown up thwarting some eco-terrorists that he had infiltrated.

He then got brought back to life during the Hal Jordan post-Parallax and Kevin Smith did a LARKS job with him and Stanley and his Monster before it all went Winicky and we got HIV and all other types of superhero sadface. Blackest Night sadface. Brightest Day sadface. More sadface.

In the Johnsiverse he's just kind of nothing. Last year or so has mirrored the tv show and is much better, like a serious Hawkeye.

It may just be because I'm reading the stuff at the moment, but Arrow has somewhat of a silver/bronze-age Spider-Man feel in terms of being somewhat more of an ensemble affair centered around the titular protagonist. Lots of secondary characters on their own little side journeys.

best GA imo

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really liked how they ended up dealing with cal in the last few episodes. ward also. the characters all seem pretty vivid with interesting, outlandish motivations and stories now.

also the action sequences are pretty uniformly actually worth watching

awesome finale... ramped up the crazy right away

fight scenes are consistently well done, i enjoy them

cliffhanger ending was O_O

This show gets such an undeservedly bum rap. I'm glad it's sticking around. Nuts to the haters.

i'm really gonna miss kyle maclachlan chewing the scenery. his jaunty 'there goes the feeling in my legs!' after getting hit with a barrage of stun bullets is still cracking me up.

the action sequences really are fantastic, maybe a new benchmark for tv fight scenes.

mclachlan really gave a good vaudeville villain; and the tender stuff was handled well