I didn't think Of Kubrick once watching this myself
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
maybe there's arguably some thematic things in common but it doesn't look or feel like a kubrick movie at all. and while i dont think it's better than really any of kubrick's movies that's hardly a knock against it.
― ryan, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
only way to fix it's lack of Kubrick is to get it remade by spielberg, with a 45-minute coda about her quest to become a real girl
― Brio2, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
now AI would definitely be an interesting comparison!
― ryan, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
i dont exactly get the kubrick thing myself - thats just critics needing to slam something canon-y/cinephile-ish in there, or simply unable to watch a new film without seeing it as referring to something in the past. there are better things to slam this movie about, like its jarring editing for instance. or how there arent more club scenes. or the fact that it lacks anything resembling humour. it is a bit too aware of and in love with its entire arty-sci-fi-ness. the reviewer did get that part right, though i think thats why it seems to be rated so highly, simply for what it doesnt do (ie its not interstellar, yay!) than what it does, which iirc is basically deconstructionist, minimalist, and ambivalence, all great concepts, but for me, it just made it seem kind of disconnected. plus, i had watched the man who fell to earth already and didnt really need a low budget 21st century remake of it. am thinking i should just file it under critic-bait/indie british films we are meant to SUPPORT/films you are meant to like as the lead star who is usually in big hollywood productions is slumming it.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link
the man who fell to earth is a mess and a slog, especially compared to the economy and intensity of under the skin
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
theres economy.... and then there's borderline brutal jumps in flow. then again maybe that could be a virtue. bold and brutal editing - a suitably blunt style of editing for the times. like jumping from one internet browser tab to the next. or going through a youtube playlist. yes, actually, fuck flow and smooth transitions and continuity and all the rest of it - more exciting to just shuttle around (im not being facetious here).
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
editing style is well suited to the material imo, and it allows for mystery to seep in through the gaps
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link
im going to watch it again with this new aesthetic appreciation i have developed and report back after the weekend. also going to have a few drinks just in case i get pissed off at it again. or i might just put the scenes that look like a car advert on repeat.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
am now wondering what harmony korine (also someone with a good grasp of nu-jar editing mannerisms) might have done with the script
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
"humorless" is a fair charge i guess, but i think any overtly funny moments would've broken the spell and seemed out of place.
i like man who fell to earth ok but under the skin does a way better job of depicting what an actual non-human perspective might be like imo.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link
some of the jump cuts in this movie actually made me literally jump. i don't know if any movie's ever done that to me before.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
it's a film about the experience of alienation and dislocation, the struggle to make sense of environment and experience. abstraction, fragmentation and coldness work as elements of the narrative, not mere style for style's sake.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
what he said
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link
id say enter the void had a trippier take on non human perspectives, despite still being from the POV of an actual human. glazer should have done that peep show/lady in the water-POV type thing maybe, so we never even see the alien. that might have been interesting and more challenging (after all, a lot of people would probably never have checked this out if it wasnt for scarjo/scarjo being naked). do have an allergic reaction to po-faced analysis of this movie however which i am trying to work through.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
this isn't available on Blu-Ray at the video store, and it seems like a Blu-Ray (as opposed to DVD) kind of movie. how should I see this?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 04:54 (nine years ago) link
this reminded me of Morvern Callar more than anything else (which is a film I love)
― akm, Friday, 23 January 2015 05:11 (nine years ago) link
It reminded me of Morvern Callar too!
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 January 2015 05:16 (nine years ago) link
morvern callar has one fantastic shot (of a spaced-out drug-addled partygoer) that sticks really strongly in my mind
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 05:21 (nine years ago) link
it's kind of a grainy film, I think dvd would be alright (several xposts)
― akm, Friday, 23 January 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link
Should have been a bloopers reel over the end credits with ScarJo's funniest Glasgow pickup moments.
― Alba, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
this ignorant shit never gets old, does it
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
uh SJ using the lamp is very funny
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
it's a fucking joke, morbs. relax.
― Brio2, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:41 (nine years ago) link
waiting for the pron remake, personally.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
Alba otm
― mh, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
She picked up a total ned, that is comedy.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
But I think this film would have done fine without humour. Don't see why it would need it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
I don't think anyone is actually advocating for the injection of humor into the film, Robert
― mh, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
i said it seemed like a blu-ray film b/c it's so DARK (literally--lots of black) and blacks come across better in HD
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25 AM (3 hours ago)
otm, one of the year's few genuine laugh-out-loud moments for me (re supposed humorlessness)
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Friday, 23 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
the kid screaming on the beach as motorcycle alien returns got a groany laugh in the theatre when I saw it
― Brio2, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
Tough crowd.
― Alba, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
with clenched teeth
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
whoa
this was great
um, i uh
being a visible self is hard eh. also she felt like less predator, more...end-point
legit horror movie. the bit with the men trapped underwater was possibly the most startling thing i've seen in years if not ever
glazer doesn't so much have a style as have every style almost effortlessly at his disposal
the score was quite astonishing
scar-jo spoon-jar confusion got a laugh, just like that
uh
this felt complex, progressive, daring and genuinely menacing. also felt like the film glazer's been wanting to make the whole time
those reviews c&pd upthread are deeply and almost frighteningly stupid
― pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Saturday, 7 February 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link
"legit horror movie. the bit with the men trapped underwater was possibly the most startling thing i've seen in years if not ever"
If I would have watched this as a kid, I would have been terrified.
― xelab, Saturday, 7 February 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link
Anyone else keep half expecting Limmy to turn up in this?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 08:17 (eight years ago) link
or russ abbott
― conrad, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link
sorry - russ abbot
― conrad, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 09:08 (eight years ago) link
or Rab C Nesbitt
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 09:19 (eight years ago) link
etc etc
alex salmond
― conrad, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 09:45 (eight years ago) link
mel gibson
― conrad, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
would have been a totally different film if glen michael had taken the lead role as glazer originally intended
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 09:50 (eight years ago) link
Sean Connery
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:02 (eight years ago) link
Andy Murray
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:50 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so it became a film about the abject feminine by accident? /reductive
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:08 (eight years ago) link
no it was a joke
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:58 (eight years ago) link
They've painted blue feet on the right side of the escalator. Everything is wrong today
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 11:01 (eight years ago) link
totty the robot haring around the countryside on a motorbike
― conrad, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 11:03 (eight years ago) link