The Avengers 2 -- Age of Ultron

When the MCU started picking up steam, I never thought the Cap movies would be more interesting than the Avengers movies, but I'm interested in this more as a lead-in to Civil War than on its own merits.

I think overall the Cap movies are the best self-contained stories; I never cared that much about Captain America as a comic book character but I really, really enjoy him as a film character.

I've seen and enjoyed all the Marvel movies of the modern era (except the Hulk which is kinda not so much canonical so since they switched leads so quickly)
cap's second film might be the best of the bunch but they're all sorta equally good popcorners; if you are adamant about the leap in quality between, say, iron man 2 and avengers, i think you're splitting hairs

Destroyed buildings in CGI. Jagged girders and exploding glass in CGI. Malevolent robotic creatures profusely decorated with ornate curlicues in CGI. Noisy, bass-heavy, throbbing, insistent music. Fight scenes reduced to little more than strobe effects through countless quick cuts. Under-developed characters delivering perfunctory dialogue. Scarlett Johansson rolling her eyes.

Looks boring.

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that's a mirror, dude

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Needs more heroes. And villains, too.

One X-Men: The Last Stand is one too many.

xxxp - dude did you see Iron Man 2? it goes on for a million years.

i don't remember iron man 2 being long? i also don't remember manakamana being long.

looks cool, stoked for madness, etc. except renner seems like he's in another movie and should really be in that other movie.

not to be one of those "i just posted multiple to say i don't care" people, but i'm realizing with marvel i'm more interested in the new movies than the sequels - can they get ANOTHER franchise up and running vs can they enjoy the fruit of that labor. i'm totally gonna see this and probably have a great time, but i'm more jazzed to find out whether Ant-Man will work

this is, in a very real sense, teal vs orange: the movie

looking forward to watching this at Cinerama, finding it tolerable

the hulk cannot be entirely orange

a profound philosophical truth

btw, downey such a class act

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055271/Robert-Downey-Jr-sparks-controversy-accused-making-racist-remark-Oscar-winning-Mexican-director.html

rough press tour for The Avengers crew

I do find Innaritu complaining about movies that "purport to be profound" fairly rich though

yes, no denying that

superhero grist obviously has a strong fascist stripe tho

say what you will, they keep the superhero movies running on time (over two hours)

that's on time?

it's a mandatory requirement of superhero movies, iirc

Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu otm. Let's not pretend like these movies have anything real to say.

Biggest military country in the world has biggest movie franchise in the world centered on a hero who is a defense contractor/super rich asshole.

100% true, but coming from iñárritu we're definitely in 'bald men fighting over a comb' territory here xp

The people making these movies are likely not among the the people making arguments that these movies are profound.

I can assure you that they are not

James Gunn has a background writing stuff for Troma! I would say he's refreshingly non-profound.

the hulk cannot be entirely orange

http://marvel.wikia.com/Orange_Hulk_%28Earth-295%29

Biggest military country in the world has biggest movie franchise in the world centered on a hero who is a defense contractor/super rich asshole.

tbf, this is complicated somewhat by tony stark's decision to stop making weapons in the first iron man - the family of pivotal characters in age of ultron were killed by stark weapons too

he still enjoys strapping himself into his wmd-suit and conducting unilateral action on foreign soil tho

Civil War will be addressing some of these concerns, I'm sure.

The people making these movies are likely not among the the people making arguments that these movies are profound.

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I can assure you that they are not

― Οὖτις, Thursday, April 30, 2015

I can assure you that they are!

Yeah, they sort of try to have their cake and eat it too with him turning against weapons development but remaining all pally with the military, Rhodes, SHIELD etc. I mean it just makes him seem like a sanctimonious in-denial asshole.

It'd be great if the "Civil War" movie just skips ahead to Dark Reign and gives us a supervillain in the red-white-and-blue "Iron Patriot" suit. That would be nice too because generally I'm more interested in the on-the-ground Marvel Universe of Bendis and company than the side turn into galactic/cosmic stuff with Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy and I guess Infinity War which seems a huge misstep. (I'd be all about a bizarre mindfuck Fantastic Four movie, but the odds of that look extremely low.)

well I'm referring to the FX people I know who actually work on these movies, who generally seem to have a profound sense of self-loathing about most of these projects. The set of TMNT2 was sounding especially bleak for ex.

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I am sure Jeph Loeb thinks he is profound as hell but as far as I can tell he has very little creative input :)

I am a big fan of Jeph Loeb in his current role with respect to Marvel's television projects as he clearly isn't contributing anything creatively.

Day is bright! Solar Hulk am powered by good sun!
-- Orange Hulk

orange hulk otm

lotion is his kryptonite

spf-55 aerially dropped by helitack

There does seem to be some blurring of 'centred on' and 'started by' in this thread - but I'm interested in seeing people's reactions over the weekend on how the film deals with the issue of tech and governments.

I haven't seen any of the writers or directors claim profundity - even Branagh, who you'd imagine would be a good bet.

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It's really impressive how Whedon juggles all the strands of this film, soooo much is going on, and a lot of it pays off. Don't know if I'll say 'most', because this is sequel-ville, but there are some nice payoffs. It's nothing special, but I watch something like this, and I don't get why so many blockbusters are so awful. There's a scene where a hero steps on a toy, then becomes embarassed. It's fun. How fucking hard is it to have Superman step on a toy now and then?

Filmmaking is easy, man. Someone give me a billion dollars.

The small touches in this one really are the best bits. [one character]'s little "yay!" in the opening sequence of delight in [his or her] own abilities. The most whedony thing about this is that the big moment that brings the house down involves a hammer but is not an action sequence and yeah, it would be nice if more blockbuster would take the lesson. We come for spectacle but we live or die on the emotional beats.

On reflection, I'm pretty sure that I would have enjoyed the 3-hour version of this a lot more.

I've learned that I hate the spectactle 9 times out of 10, it's the other stuff that I find entertaining.

Then you may enjoy this sliiiiightly more than you think. Popcorn at the Metreon is oversalted tho.

"Hammer" moment was a showstopper, the theater I saw this in went nuts. Same for the inter-credits scene.

the latter was rubbish though

yeah, the hammer bit is really the 'puny god' moment of this movie