u want it, go ahead and keep it, i've moved on
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Sunday, 31 May 2015 07:14 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thefader.com/2015/10/08/hipster-runoff-ezra-koenig-carles-interview
love it
― the late great, Friday, 9 October 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link
This conversation was edited for clarity—namely, instances of “u,” “ppl” and “2” were changed to be spelled out. But you can imagine.
― just sayin, Friday, 9 October 2015 07:57 (eight years ago) link
Tavi Gevinson @tavitulle 11 minutes agofun fact! hipster runoff wrote weird jokingly predatory comments on my blog when i was 12, 13. always baffled when friends defend him to mehttps://twitter.com/tavitulle/status/652477009856188420
― jaymc, Friday, 9 October 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link
The Carles stuff is good Ezra just sounds like he's trying hard to sound smart/like Carles.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 October 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link
ezra is the worst
― marcos, Friday, 9 October 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link
reads like a republican candidate trying to joke along with colbert
― nomar, Friday, 9 October 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link
CARLES: Do you feel like failed indie blogs (like my own) created a fake/misguided tier of celebrity and global cultural relevance?
lol what is this? is he basically just wondering aloud if he is as important/relevant as he thinks he is?
― jill's got heroin (rip van wanko), Friday, 9 October 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
EZRA: I don’t know if I’m a taste curator yet. I feel more like a flavor. I wish I was a taste curator because then I could just trend-spot flavors. I’m like a lonely hazelnut frappuccino in a Starbucks in a Target. The real power is being Target.
2 deep 4 me
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 October 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
Carles: Do you think this interview/deep meaningful podcast-style ‘free flowing’ interaction is dependent upon the #klout of your #reach?EZRA: If I have any #reach, I shouldn’t waste it propagating the lie that indie existed. How does that help me and my brand?
Yeah scratching my head here what could indie possibly have to do with the lead singer of Vampire Weekend interviewing a tastemaker in The Fader.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 October 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
Carles may have talked a lot about authenticity and fakeness but I usually felt like he was genuine in his writing. Even when he was portraying characters. Ezra here just comes across as a cynical xerox of that style.
CARLES: Where do you go when you want to be ‘authentically immersed in culture?’ Remember when people thought they could get #networked together on the internet as a cultural aggregator?
EZRA: I feel most ‘authentically immersed in culture’ when I am sitting at an independent, artisanal cafe reading a book by a left-wing journalist with my phone flipped-over on the table in front of me.
CARLES: If you were to open a post-artisan coffee shop, what would you do? What specialty drinks/roasting processes would you serve, and what customer experience would you ‘curate’?
EZRA: The post-artisan cafe vibe wave we’re seeing in L.A./N.Y.C./London is less old-timey shit and more Scandinavian/art gallery minimalism. My cafe would take this to its logical extreme: all-white, backless benches and one large brewed pot of coffee today (when it’s done, it’s done). I would play the Billboard Top 10 singles on loop all day.
― flopson, Saturday, 10 October 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
lol
I always half-assumed that dude *was* Ezra Koenig
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Saturday, 10 October 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link
he is otm about the move toward scando style the bastard
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
"we chose genuine fakes over fake genuines" was otm too
― flopson, Saturday, 10 October 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
Idk about the scando thing. There is a twin peaks-esque woodsy americana kitsch vibe to a lot of brunch spots in bushwick. Seems like a throwback to bush era "ironic appreciation" of mass culture but these places are new. Maybe its a vanguard that points to a coming resurgence of this aesthetic in the age of Trump.
― Treeship, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
Ppl like to get into distrusting metanarratives when their politics is openly an incoherent clown show. Disillusionment with Obama, as much as hope in Obama, was a coherent metanarrative, hence the 2k8-2k10 "bubble" when people had a hunger for authenticity. If politics isn't stupid, maybe culture isn't either, the logic goes. Maybe. All of this is very facile.
― Treeship, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
There was something about Occupy Wall Street, the Arab Spring, and Twitter that might have felt different to many people though -- a suspension of the corporate stranglehold on culture, a sense of the coming irrelevancy of all things mainstream
― Treeship, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link
Enter Carles
― Treeship, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
Treesh I'm reporting from the front lines in SF and I'm telling you, minimal is happening
http://sprudge.com/ritual-coffee-valencia-san-francisco-remodel-63024.html
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link
Between the poptimism recap and the Carles interview, it seems like Fader is trying to reach that coveted "the 300 people that regularly read ILX" demographic
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link
For our 100th issue we ask: Do we still want hen fap!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:18 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
front lines of what? place looks just like the restaurant avec in chicago, which opened in 2003, and not that different from the original stumptown in portland, opened the same year. non-scando (and what exactly is new about that?), but the even more minimalist la colombe in noho is about 4 years old too.
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Saturday, 10 October 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
"There was something about Occupy Wall Street, the Arab Spring, and Twitter that might have felt different to many people though -- a suspension of the corporate stranglehold on culture,"
seriously?
hahaha
feel like we shld deconstruct the instutionalcore look in interior design going on rn if were gonna be serious about things
― dead (Lamp), Sunday, 11 October 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
i looked this up on the wayback machine recently.
some of it was still funny and prescient.
but the main thing that jumped out was that it was often shockingly sexist. "ironically" i guess but still.
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
wonder what carles is up to
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
Probably a content marketing strategist, whatever that is
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
Strange that he disappeared so suddenly. Seems he has a certain talent that he could have milked in some way (I guess maybe he did and I just don’t know about it)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
was sick of the blog life
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
didn’t he write for grantland for a hot minute?
― 525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
whaat
h/t @davetroy for this tweet today which led me to watch the video. Not my usual fare.https://t.co/Y1oaTpKXzD— Jackie Singh 🇺🇦 🇺🇸 (@hackingbutlegal) March 23, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link
oops that s reply this is the tweet i want
NEW: Grimes Admits to Blackmail, Extortion, and Hacking in Vanity Fair Video Interviewcc @derektmead for an uncertain closure to his original article on this topic from a decade ago.https://t.co/hjQDFSsmiI #infosec #cybercrime— Jackie Singh 🇺🇦 🇺🇸 (@hackingbutlegal) March 23, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link
No, alt QT!
― peace, man, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link
Lol this thread is a nostalgia trip.
It’s funny reading about idosing and people being mindblown with those binaural “cutting hair” youtube vids.
Wonder what carles would have thought about asmr
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:55 (two years ago) link
HR came to prominence in this weird moment where the group of friends I'd go to hipster runoff-esque bands and bars kind of dispersedtransition from the blog house scene to edm/etcphoto blogs of parties in nyc/la/etc kind of disappeared as people got iphones/etc
part of it was me getting old (late 20s lol) but it seemed like a shift?
lots of good stuff in this thread, real time capsule
― mh, Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link
Yeah 2010 does feel like a long time ago reading some of the comments in this thread
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:25 (two years ago) link
lol, I ctrl-f'd myself in the thread and was like "why did I have so many opinions on a blog I never read...? oh, because I was talking about how much I like Vegas"
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link
ftr this latest revelation went straight on the "I've been telling you all for years that Grimes is terrible" pile
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link
same
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link
Hipster runoff warned us about her more than a decade ago.
Been reading the posts about her and yeah in retrospective she has always been unpalatable. I guess I tolerated it better when her music didn’t suck.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link
It's amazing she's been able to last this long despite being The Fucking Worst since day one. I mean, you would think "high school art girl version of Matthew Barney" would have a naturally short shelf life, but it's been a decade and a half or something at this point.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
My timeline with Grimes is basically: "oh, ppl say she makes gothy pixie music, that's 100% my bag" *listens to Visions* "holy hell this is unmitigated bullshit, wtf"*hears Purity Ring*"oh this is what I thought Grimes was going to sound like; here Grimes, you can have all of my middle fingers"
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
the one with the video at the monster truck rally is fine enough but I don't think I've ever sought out another Grimes banger
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link
No some of her songs are incredible including Vanessa, Flesh Without Blood, and Oblivion
― treeship., Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
Oblivion is not incredible, it is interminable
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHFwabVJec
haha holy shit you'd have to pay me to watch a video with that thumbnail
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link
I dont like the new stuff as much
― treeship., Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link