gl hoos
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
it's been almost a year, feel like it's probably permanent, grateful i didn't need aa meetings. the stability has been essential to me becoming half of the mess i was. good luck hoos.
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
rooting for you hoos, i don't think there's one royal road to getting control so weigh up your strategies and go with whatever works best for you
― Twee Speech and Crepey Literalism (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Responsible-Drinking-Moderation-Management-Approach/dp/1572242949/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1434397008&sr=1-1&keywords=responsible+drinking
^^^worth a look while you take a break (or don't)
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
Good decision, hoos. Much better to reassert control while control is still in reach. Good luck. Just stay focused on the goal and the reasons for it and you'll be fine.
― Aimless, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link
Responsible Drinking Paperback – 21 Jul 2003
Most Helpful Customer ReviewsTwo StarsBy puremince on 23 May 2015
Useful pints but never worked for me
― 乒gl乓 (nakhchivan), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
hahaha that is too perfect
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
but for real some of my fellow social work stoodents have worked in the substance use disorder (aka SUD, the term now replacing "substance abuse" in professional circles) field and harm reduction/other non-abstinence-based methodologies are a viable, evidence-based alternative to AA and the like.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
:)
it does look like a useful book though
good wishes of course.....
― 乒gl乓 (nakhchivan), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
thanks, everyone.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link
Recent interview-based research indicated that tobacco was the most common gateway for alcohol and other addictions. I found that quitting cigs made quitting booze much easier. Did go more or less cold turkey re both, but not simultaneously. But, booze-wise, I was pretty much a weekend warrior/fule anyway. As indicated upthread, v. dangerous to go cold turkey on your own, in many cases (Townes Van Zandt died of a heart attack that way).
― dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
"useful pints" made my day
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 15 June 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link
Somebody pointed me to SMART Recovery, and that's given me just the kind of framework I'm looking for--I've got a plan now that's gonna lead me to a period of sobriety starting in September. To, through & from there I'll figure out how to deal with the things that make me drink. Once I've made that something I can control confidently, no matter how long that takes, I might welcome myself to a beer again.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
This is an excerpt from an article on James Taylor that I've kept around to help me with my own demons:
"Well, when I cleaned up some 17 odd years ago, I felt terrible inside my own skin for about six months," Taylor says. "And the only thing that gave me any real relief was - was strenuous physical activity. It made me feel good for a while. Maybe it's endorphins, or whatever. I sort of swapped addictions and got into...physical exercise."
Today he at least appears to be a poster boy for the 12-step road to recovery.
"When you say I - I seem like a, you know, a - a sort of solid, rock-solid image of sanity, you know, it doesn't feel that way to me, especially when I wake up at, you know, 5 o'clock in the morning, you know, you know, anxious," Taylor reveals.
He describes his anxiety: "It doesn't seem to - to matter what it is."
"(Itseems to be, yeah, free-floating anxiety that'll attach to anything," Taylor explains."The difference, essentially, is that I know that it doesn't last forever."
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link
Echoing the good wishes for hoos (though, just sayin, it might be easier if your name didn't rhyme with booze).
From what I read lately, the current wisdom does seem to be shifting, allowing greater space for tapering and moderation as possibilities (vs. the all-or-nothing MUSTness and in-yo-face religiosity of AA).This recent Atlantic piece is an example.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I read that great article a while ago, it's part of why I sought out other approaches.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
Big Booze AKA The Harddrinker
― supreme problematics (D-40), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
Sorry
you could atone w/ a good 'designated driver' hoosjoke
― j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link
thanks for linking that article xps
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
The Finns are famously private
lol
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
haaaaaaaa
― designated hitler (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
Does hoos really rhyme with booze or have I been saying one of those wrong for awhile
― fear of a nakh pan itt (wins), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link
gl btw hoos
― fear of a nakh pan itt (wins), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link
how else would u say hooz
― designated hitler (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link
Hoose, like a Scottish house
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
or hoh-uhs like noos
(best wishes hoos)
― drash, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
hoos like the gow
― j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link
^^^ the correct way, based on Hoos's explanation of its origin.
― nickn, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
if you say it with the Spanish s it is soft, like "hooss" instead of "hooze"
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link
a hoos by any other name
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
go get em hoos; i quit drinking a few years ago and am happier for it.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
I've been through the desert on a hoos with no name
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
fie, xpost
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link
hoos, your're gonna turn into forks, do with that knowledge what you will
― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:12 (eight years ago) link
celebrate and live happily ime/imo
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link
hey hoos, how do u feel abt pottery
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:35 (eight years ago) link
wouldn't trust it as far as he could throw it
― back once again with the panel behaviour (sic), Thursday, 18 June 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link
teeehee
best of luck, hoos.
― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 June 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:35 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um i dunno...its cool to put stuff in?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 June 2015 05:58 (eight years ago) link
that's the spirit
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 06:00 (eight years ago) link
or, you know, lack thereof
haa
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 June 2015 06:02 (eight years ago) link
today I spent an hour driving my dad around Baltimore, helping him look for his car, which he misplaced while blackout drunk. he hasn't had a drink in 2 days, this was the thing that finally shook him up about how bad his drinking had gotten. he quit cigars successfully a few months ago so i have hope. trying to get him to consider going to AA. i really have no idea where his car could be, though.
― some dude, Thursday, 18 June 2015 06:12 (eight years ago) link
hopefully it gets towed eventually? I'd just keep calling the police's towed vehicles phone # or w/e and be hopeful
― Upright Mammal (mh), Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link
Sorry to be flippant about an actual serious situation, but: some dude, where's my car
http://imallvirtual.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Dude-Wheres-My-Car.jpg
― Ye Mad Puffin, Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link
I had a pal who called the police to report his car stolen, but when they found it 'abandoned in a diner parking lot,' the friend pieced together a narrative from stuff he had found (like a matchbook from the diner in his jacket pocket at home) and realized in some horror that he had parked it there during a full drunken blackout where he drove to the diner. It freaked him out enough to clean him up for a while, and he never got that bad again.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 18 June 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link
yeah sounds pretty similar to my dad's situation. he woke up the next morning with an uneaten pizza in the kitchen (from a place that doesn't deliver), so that's the only real indication of what he did that night, he remembers nothing.
he's called the towing yards and no dice...i guess you can tell the police about a missing vehicle even if it's not stolen or towed, right?
― some dude, Thursday, 18 June 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
that sucks man. and yeah, if you let the cops know it's been "Stolen", you always have the out of saying dad simply misplaced it later. worst case scenario, you have to pay to get it out of police impound.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link