Nine dead in shooting by white gunman at historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina

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― how's life, Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:34 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oops, ty

Yup, we've hit point in any horrific media event when the on-air assholes can now safely target the president instead of trying to just kill time.

Puns not intended, probably.

Right? "If the pastor was armed, this wouldn't have happened."

I'm not going to post a youtube of a satirical comedy show on this thread but google "gungregation" to see what Chris Morris was up to in 1997.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hsgif90ivw

mythology of guns in america is so juvenile

I hope there's no editing or politicizing there by the clip uploader, Michael Savage - I only caught the title.

Obama was utterly mealymouthed on guns in his campaigns. His words do not interest me.

Obama was utterly mealymouthed on guns in his campaigns. His words do not interest me.

yes we know

Not now, Morbs. Please.

reassuring to hear impatient, loveless reference to the american people hesitant to start thinking about gun violence

― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:30 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this is the 12983719847937 request for a national dialogue on both guns and race

obama also leads a pretty violent military...maybe the whole leading by example thing could help in some way....

Confederate flag still flying high over the SC capitol?

not now, scott, or ever

"let's be clear - gun violence bad; drones, torture & domestic spying not so bad"

Obama must be tired of doing this by now

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 June 2015 16:21 (2 hours ago) Permalink

i appreciate all the 2nd amendment sentiment in this thread but let's not forget that this act is also an expression of white supremacy

one of the victims was a librarian: http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150618/PC16/150619385/librarian-cynthia-hurd-dedicated-her-life-to-books-educating-others

this act is also an expression of white supremacy

of course. which is harder to express w out a gun

c'mon shakes

what

let's take this offline. ilxmail me if you want

http://cordjefferson.tumblr.com/post/121847112478/imagine-being-so-married-to-your-narrative-that

roommate knew about his plans for half a year: http://abcnews.go.com/US/charleston-shooting-closer-alleged-gunman-dylann-roof/story?id=31865375

thanks for the heads up, dalton

Dylann Roof, the alleged gunman authorities say is responsible for killing nine people in a predominantly black Charleston, South Carolina, church Wednesday night, had been “planning something like that for six months,” according to his roommate.

Dalton Tyler, who said he has known Roof for seven months to one year, said he saw the white, 21-year-old suspect just last week.

“He was big into segregation and other stuff,” Tyler said. “He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself.”

too much of a coward to pull off that last part of the plan i guess

he was arrested in NC, so he was on his way north, not home.

big into segregation and other stuff

Like it was a fucking hobby

christ

How to not be an ally ffs

what world is a person living in when they're not only apparently indifferent to their roommate telling them that, but also cool with telling the press this in a matter of fact way?

not to take this into a pithy music nerd direction and trivialize the terrorism and tragedy, but rocking those apartheid flags are about 1 degree away from dij/boyd rice fandom which we all have friends that are into that shit and we all make excuses for them "they aren't really racist they just like the imagery!" etc etc so i just want to say fuck that and it's time we stop giving this shit a pass like dylan's friends did.

The most ominous thing to me in that story is the suggestion that his parents would not let him take the gun out of the house. Like they knew there was reason not to.

we all have friends that are into that shit and we all make excuses for them

o rly

ok sorry i know youre a magical exception.

how could you ever give a friend a pass on that shit tho

yeah I don't think I'm that magical

if it was kind of common for you and the white goobers you hang out with to say shit like that?

xp

yeah while i too am delighted to note that i don't have any fascist friends, i do appreciate that trying to paint this as the result of some 'other' white people as a group distinct from we normal white people isn't a good way to do things (#notallwhitepeople). but some things are just so baffling and alien it's hard not to ask what the fuck

http://i.imgur.com/Qngp2Ro.png

WSJ already going with the 'lone wolf' narrative

Lone wolf involved in groups!

"Fell off the grid" seems to mean something different to some people, a definition that includes "told people his plans for the last half year"

Liked "emo" music

Twitter users who said they went to high school with Roof remembered him as a "punk rocker" who liked emo music.

He became a loner by joining racist groups

Makes sense

"fell off the grid" "live with roommate whom he told his plans to 6 months before the shooting"

a stable middle class family that gives their disturbed son prone to racist rants a gun

"hmmm you seem upset. here's a firearm!"

Said Governor Haley: “When hate happens, we come together, and that’s what we’ll do. So right now we grieve. And then we’ll heal. And when we heal, we end up stronger than we started.”

after horrific things like this the usual meaningless b.s. from politicans and other public figures seems even more grotesque than usual. wtf does this mean?

first of all, who are "we", in her mind?