Madame Macbeth is correct re les jeux
She is a friend but I haven't read the book yet
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 16 July 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
friends don't have to read friends' books, it's a perk
― j., Thursday, 16 July 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
I'm reading marvellous clouds atm, Ryan. Enjoying it so far - not sure why I try to read this stuff at work, though. But I'm only about 70 pages in.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:35 (eight years ago) link
I don't know much about Timothy Morton or OOO but this has piqued my interest. http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/25630/1/bjork-searches-for-meaning-in-these-personal-emails
There's some lovely stuff in there.
"I try to argue that everything is alive (or undead--almost as good!!" Can this be called "reanimism" please?
― jmm, Saturday, 25 July 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
aw that email correspondence is adorable
― drash, Saturday, 25 July 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link
Congrats, Ryan! Was always a big fan of yours back in the I Love Film days
― Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link
Also, started reading an interesting VSI that I got in Oxford which is related to this thread but I won't say what until I get a little further.
― Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
came across this on twitter, made me laugh:
http://imgur.com/gallery/rn1QP69
― ryan, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link
won't google "ghostmodernism" for fear it is a real academic trend, rather than a pretty cool band name.
― ryan, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
Sounds like hauntology. Which is a cool genre name.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link
http://www.academia.edu/People/Ghostmodernism
1 ghostmodernist can't be wrong.
― jmm, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link
im sure "University of Wolverhampton" sounds like a perfectly normal place to british people but it sounds to this texan like an ideal place to study ghostmodernism.
― ryan, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
Forgot to say 'hauntologie' is also a term from Derrida.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
trust me it would be
― MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
Busy modernists often hire ghostmodernists to serve as uncredited coauthor.
― jmm, Saturday, 29 August 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
Anyone seen this thing? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379028/
Apparently there's a scene in it of Cavell, Danto, and Morgenbesser playing in a meadow while arguing about the external world.
― jmm, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
there was some talk a ways back about deleuze and expression, of which i was reminded when i picked up this book: http://www.amazon.com/Search-Image-Thought-Philosophical-Expressionism/dp/0816678030/
not sure when i'll have time to read it (my quest to understand deleuze remains a faltering yet ongoing project), but thought it may be of interest to the thread.
in other news i order Hans Blumenberg's gigantic "Work on Myth" and im really excited to read it. "Legitimacy of the Modern Age" is probably on my short list of favorite books by this point.
― ryan, Monday, 14 September 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
work on work on myth
― j., Monday, 14 September 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
about 2/3 of way through "the universe of things" and it's very readable and interesting, though i think it's managed to turn me off to OOO and whitehead.
has anyone read Lee Braver's "A Thing of This World: A History of Continental Anti-Realism"? I think im gonna try to skim through it next.
― ryan, Monday, 21 September 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
skimmed a bit
read some of his heidegger/wittgenstein book too, seemed worth reading through (just haven't had a good time to yet)
i think he's doing good stuff
― j., Monday, 21 September 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
Anyone seen this thing? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379028🔗/Apparently there's a scene in it of Cavell, Danto, and Morgenbesser playing in a meadow while arguing about the external world.
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link
Basically what philosophers did in the sixties.
― jmm, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, yeah
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
[Jpsartre.jpeg]Yé-yé
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link
Morgenbesser
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link
the introduction to "A Thing of This World" is kind of a perfect little summary of philosophy from Kant to Heidegger. looking forward to the rest. he seems like a clear-headed type.
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link
Braver quotes Hilary Putnam to the effect of it being impossible to find a philosopher before Kant who is not a metaphysical realist. i had never considered this but it's interesting, especially since it recasts the period between Descartes and Kant as one of transition from the medieval to the modern, rather than Descartes as the first modern.
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:41 (eight years ago) link
yeah i think there's been a lot of interesting work lately questioning just how well the idea of descartes as the first modern holds, e.g. alain de libera's stuff about when the modern subject actually appears (short answer: either significantly before descartes or significantly after descartes).
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link
just looked up De Libera and his stuff looks awesome but i can't read french because i suck. (i can more or less make out the titles of his books though.)
my biggest regret so far in life is that if i was gonna make the catastrophic decision to go to grad school i should have gone for intellectual history.
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link
but Kant was a metaphysical realist!
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link
For a minute I thought instead of "Kant" you typed "Karl."
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link
the entry on 'subject' from dictionary of untranslatables that de libera wrote with etienne balibar and barbara cassin is a good introduction to his deal - http://www.radicalphilosophy.com/wp-content/files_mf/rp138_article1_vocabularyofeuropeanphilosophiespart1.pdf
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link
that looks awesome--thanks!
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link
Isn't Berkeley an anti-realist?
― jmm, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
it's being used in a specialized sense so Berkeley would still count as a realist: since ideas are all there is, we are definitely up to knowing what they are. if there was a sliding scale I imagine he might be more of a realist than Descartes, who at least entertains the possibility of skepticism!
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
well
Berkeley is not a materialist but he is a theist so he does have positive metaphysical acceptances too
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link
Euler do you mean Kant is a metaphysical realist because of the proof of an external world or for some other reason?
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
well there is that
but I had in mind his commitment to noumena
and in the Prolegomena:
There are things given to us as objects of our senses existing outside us, yet we know nothing of them as they may be in themselves, but are acquainted only with their appearances, i.e. with the representations that they produce in us because they affect our senses. Accordingly, I by all means avow that there are bodies outside us, i.e. things which, though completely unknown to us as to what they may be in themselves, we know through the representations which their influence on our sensibility provides for us, and to which we give the name of a body—which word therefore merely signifies the appearance of this object that is unknown to us but is nonetheless real. Can this be called idealism? It is the very opposite of it.
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
cool--thanks!
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
I mean it's a controversial point & my view is owed to my graduate training where my teacher was/is a defender of this line but there are texts like this, what can you say
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link
the de libera / étienne balibar / barbara cassin article linked above is really good & helpful to me! it seems to me a very characteristic example of good contemporary French philosophy : highly dependent upon readings of historical texts, not surprising since the three authors are historians of philosophy. if it's armchair philosophy then it's an armchair in a bibliothèque rather than in some office.
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
^agreed, good article & relevant to my interestsmuch of the medieval stuff was new to mewas familiar with balibar’s fondness for the subject(ed) ‘pun’ from his essay in this bookhttp://d.gr-assets.com/books/1266915545l/1871607.jpgit’s somewhat idiosyncratic yet i think productive way to frame genealogy of the term
my own bias feels omission of hellenistic (esp stoic) philosophy, imo pivotal to story of the subjectbut that may be due to project’s genealogical focus on ‘words’ rather than ‘concepts’
― drash, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
zat a review of a book from our boy ryan i see today??? looks like
big ups
― j., Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
haha yes. thanks. it's kind of an odd review but nice to be noticed!
― ryan, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link
I'm still working my way through the lee braver book and I really admire it. it's quite exhaustive and looks like it must have been a ton of work but it offers some of the best readings of Heidegger I've read.
― ryan, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link
this is 'thing' or the later one?
― j., Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
a thing of this world. going slow but all I got left is the derrida chapter.
― ryan, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link
got this announcement for this year's Spinoza seminar at Paris 8 & thought it a quite instructive text on the essence of French philosophy: ongoing engagement with historical texts. (well, it's my translation.) I was thinking more about the text that someone here posted on the subject, and how all three of the authors of that text are historians of philosophy, but in France that's more or less a prerequisite for doing contemporary philosophy. & how different that is from much of the Anglo-American world. anyway I like this description (though I probably won't attend the seminar).
"The figure of Spinoza has been presented from the start of the creation of the university (Paris 8). Spinoza was for Delouse "the Christ of the philosophers". Badiou, in some recent interviews, says that he is ever drawing closer to a Spinozian vision of the subjectification and of the affects of joy, of which he takes account in the material of the third volume of Being and Event. The confrontation of theses of Foucault and of Spinoza is now better and better understood. The reflection of Rancière on democratic "setbacks", or the analyses of Lyotard (for example in Why Philosophize?) cross, intersect, discuss the theses of Spinoza."
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
ah haha thanks autocorrect, Delouse is Deleuze of course. and really it should be "the figure of Spinoza has been present from the start...". blah.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link