House remix:
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jul/30/this-is-england-90-exclusive-trailer-shane-meadows
― feargal czukay (NickB), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link
Meadows is such a hack and as terrible as his movies are this type of nostalgia shit is probably amongst his worst crimes.
― xelab, Friday, 31 July 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
Meadows does have hacky qualities it's true, and yes there is a thick layer of nostalgia with all the youth culture stuff, but even while i liked it on that level, at the same time that last series was some of the grimmest, most horrifying drama i think I've ever seen on tv. A hell of a prformance from Vicky McClure too
― feargal czukay (NickB), Friday, 31 July 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
Wait I might be getting my series mixed up - have mostly forgotten what happened in 88
― feargal czukay (NickB), Friday, 31 July 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
Throughout history idealised peasants is often the worst art, would equally apply that criticism to Millet or to some of the Ken Loach cannon. But fucking Meadows really pisses me off even more for some reason. I'm sorry for disagreeing Nick, but his TV work is even more abject than his movies to me, horrifying in a different way to me.
― xelab, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
haven't watched much meadows (dead man's shoes, this is England [the film]), but does he idealize peasants? certainly not in the loach manner, i.e. didactic social-realism, where the poor characters are intelligent, or preternaturally gifted, or committed to the political advancement of their class, they're foiled by the crushing system which refuses to recognize their brilliance, or seeks outright to extinguish it. i don't see this, iirc, in meadows.
― corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link
No he frames them in some other equally restrictive and boring manner.
― xelab, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
my abiding memory of this is England is how deeply weirded out I was by a scene in which an actress who looks to be pushing 20 makes out with the small boy protagonist o_0
― corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
was he wearing a The Jam t-shirt or a Happy Mondays one? That is the difference between whatever garbage he is making.
― xelab, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link
im enjoying this meadows hate
― corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link